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Author: Joe_R
Date: 2008-05-30 21:30
As you read my posts, please understand I do not play the clarinet myself.
However, my 15 year old daughter is very talented on the clarinet and the sax. (Not just dad's opinion, her concert band director says she has great promise)
So if some of my questions sound amateurish, that's because I don't play.
My question for today is; Now that she has a Bb full Boehm, she has the ability to play Peter and the Wolf on the Bb.
Are there sources were I can obtain sheet music transposed from the key of A to Bb or will she need to do this herself?
She is able to transpose music, I would just like to surprise her and save her the time and trouble.
Thanks again,
Joe
Post Edited (2008-05-30 21:30)
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Author: Ryder
Date: 2008-05-30 23:21
If you have a way to access Finale 2006, 07, or 08 (music notation software) and a scanner I believe you can scan it into the program and transpose it in a few short clicks. Mabey her band directors would have Finale. I've never tried it myself, but then again I don't have a scanner, just Finale 2006. Can't tell you where to look for an already transposed version since I've never done so. It's always good practice to transpose when your not constrained by anything. But then again its such a relief to have it done for you. I usually just transpose it myself though since its only the addition of a flat, or sharp (from bb to A, or A to Bb).
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2008-05-31 00:10
One of the orchestras I play with did Peter and the Wolf this past season. We used an old set of parts borrowed from another orchestra that bought them a long time ago when that was still possible. There were two parts included for the clarinet -- one entirely for Bb clarinet and one entirely for A. The Bb part was actually printed. The A part was a photocopy of a hand-transcribed transposition. I am told that newer versions have a printed part for A clarinet but, from what I saw, I would expect that the parts were originally written for Bb clarinet and the A transposition came later.
The real challenge, however, may be finding parts for any clarinet because the music is not in public domain and parts are now generally only available as rentals.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-05-31 00:24
As I wrote previously, there are currently at least 3 different rental editions (Schirmer, Boosey/Hawkes, Kalmus) of Peter and the Wolf. There may be others.
If possible, avoid the Kalmus edition.
I've played a few of the rental editions and one of them (definitely not the Kalmus) puts the key signatures into the visually easier enharmonic alternative.
For example: at #6 - B major instead of Cb major.
At #20 (clarinet cadenza) the Kalmus edition and the Schirmer edition are written in Db major with numerous clumsy accidentals (and double flats), where as one of the other editions (Boosey?) is written in C major with more logical (and visually clearer) added accidentals.
Also, be aware of misprints in the A clarinet part of the Kalmus edition in the passages at #42 and #44.
Although he doesn't note which one he referenced, the Kalman Bloch Orchestral Clarinet excerpt book, volume 3 shows the (IMO) clearer edition of the cadenza ...GBK
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-05-31 16:25
Keep in mind that you can't play the low E, which is rather important to the cat theme, if it's being played on the Bb clarinet. Kalmus used to sell a Bb part, but of course you would need a low Eb on your Bb clarinet to play it correctly. I guess that's better than nothing though. ESP, www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: clarionman
Date: 2008-05-31 18:55
If you go to this site http://www.lucksmusic.com/ they usually have transpose parts for the pieces. I have order music from them transpose to Bb when the A part key is nasty or the other way around. You can call their customer support and ask them if they have trasnspose parts the music you are interested in.
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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2008-05-31 21:47
What I did was get the part written for Bb and the part written for A (both Kalmus).
Then I simply made a collage. Using the Bb part as a base, I glued in the sections that were easier on A clarinet or when the low E on A clarinet is needed.
I do the cadenza on Bb.
Often Peter and the Wolf is done in student matinees.
It's a lot easier on the brain playing in one sharp than in 6 sharps if you are playing at 9 am after getting 4 hours sleep after a six-hour opera the night before.
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Simon Aldrich
Clarinet Faculty - McGill University
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre Metropolitain de Montreal
Principal Clarinet - Orchestre de l'Opera de Montreal
Clarinet - Nouvel Ensemble Moderne
Artistic Director - Jeffery Summer Concerts (www.jefferyconcerts.com)
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2008-05-31 23:58
Aside from a score, Peter and the Wolf isn't available from Luck's. Unless I'm missing something in their database, it isn't available from Kalmus anymore, either.
Simon, I've wondered for some time now why a publisher hasn't taken the initiative to create a part like you describe. (Actually, I think I know the answer to that one.) Sections that require the low E on the A clarinet aside, as you point out, some sections are easier on the Bb and some are easier on the A so such a part would be useful even to players who have a full-Boehm Bb. (Split staff could be used for sections requiring the low concert C# that are otherwise easier to play on the Bb). In the absence of such a part, I think a lot of clarinetists do exactly what you have done.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: GBK
Date: 2008-06-01 00:15
Jack Kissinger wrote:
> Aside from a score, Peter and the Wolf isn't available from
> Luck's. Unless I'm missing something in their database, it
> isn't available from Kalmus anymore, either.
No great loss ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
I own the Kalmus 1st clarinet part to Peter and the Wolf and the A clarinet part is a handwritten transposition with a few misprints, excessive accidentals and enharmonically awkward key signatures ...GBK
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2008-06-01 12:34
GBK wrote:
> (...) the A clarinet part is a handwritten transposition with a few
> misprints, excessive accidentals and enharmonically awkward key
> signatures
Hmm. Time for a small rant here.
We often get (ie: pay for) a piece and get mini-sheets of half a marching book size, faded, blurred, with lots of errors and often two parts squeezed into one staff, inadequate spacing and all that. Often the score is available from one publisher only (copyright hooray) and it's sink or swim.
Last year I spent a considerable part of my "music time" typesetting some of my parts into a legible version (it would've been too late in the evening for practicing anyway).
Anyhow, I just wait for a composer to sue a publisher for willful or negligent mutilation of his/her work. Can't we customers expect a reasonably error-free and appealing product for our money?
Grumble, mumble, ....
--
Ben
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