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Author: eofung
Date: 2008-03-25 18:33
hi -
can anyone tell me about the Hasty insert? apparently it can be just as effective as changing the register tubes? how is it ,... inserted and what does it do?
i have a 'grunting' problem that my teacher thinks may be fixed this way. i'm not sure i want to go through all the trouble if it's only an off-chance though.
thanks!
erin
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Author: eofung
Date: 2008-03-26 00:34
The repair person I spoke to (Eric Satterlee of Meridian Winds in MI) referred to it as a Hasty Insert, so I don't think he meant a pad. He was speaking of it's use as similar to changing register tubes, if that helps.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-03-26 02:43
The Hasty insert is often very successful in taking the grunt out of the high A and B. It is not a pad. It is a small piece of metal; I use a piece of paper clip, about 1/4 have and inch long. It is inserted in the center of the register key pad, must be a cork pad to hold. When the key goes down the insert goes directly into the register tube. It usually works very well and does not change the throat Bb at all. Some repairman now have plastic inserts shaped like a cone so the thinner part goes into the tube. I believe the new Leblanc – Backun comes with that standard. If that does not work well you need to experiment with different tubes. ESP
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Author: donald
Date: 2008-03-26 05:27
the Leblanc/Backun version is called a "voicing pin" i think
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2008-03-26 15:55
At the 1988 ICA festival in Richmond, an inventor (from Russia, as I recall) showed two Buffet R-13s on which he had replaced the register vent and several other holes with conical metal tubes, sealed by metal cones attached to the keys. He claimed that the design provided better acoustics and air-flow, and I found that the instruments responded noticeably quicker than standard R-13s.
He said the design needed more work before he put it on sale, to make sure that the cones sealed perfectly and would not leak as they started to wear. I've never seen it for sale, so I suspect that he couldn't solve the durability problem.
It's also mentioned here: http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/1998/11/000727.txt, where it's also mentioned that chamfering the edges of the register key cork provides better venting and corrects the R-13 A clarion "grunt."
Brad Behn wrote about the "Hasty pad" here: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=230114&t=230056. If he still monitors the board, perhaps he could give us his current thoughts.
Ken Shaw
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