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Author: musica
Date: 2007-04-26 14:34
Did anyone catch the live stream last night from Northwestern.( Karl Leister)
I was unable to get on my computer..... a few glitches
I've since resolved.... Is it available to view again?
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Author: musiciandave
Date: 2007-04-26 17:52
I saw it, but it was very broken up. I've got a very high speed connection, but it kept dropping out over and over again. Was really good from what I heard.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-26 18:03
I saw this masterclass but I didn't like the playing style of any of the students or Leister himself. I also noticed that he had some paper under his lip that tells me what I already knew HE BITES. I liked his input on the F minor sonata by Brahms but a thought he didn't tell the student who played the Phantasiestücke to support the passages specially in the middel section of the second piece. You have to follow the piano with lot of suport and dramatic to each note in the ending before the main melody returns in the second piece. This is a very romantic pieces not classic.
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Author: grifffinity
Date: 2007-04-26 18:15
Iceland clarinet wrote:
> I also noticed that he
> had some paper under his lip that tells me what I already knew
> HE BITES.
Or he plays on very hard reeds, in which he must bite to create sound. Has anyone on the BBoard studied with Leister?
Speaking of streaming...New World Symphony will be streaming a concert soon. This is a very exciting advancement...when the technology works.
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-04-26 19:09
Saw it and thought it was terrific. Everyone played well and Leister had great comments and insights.
I think the stream was a one-time deal, unfortunately. I'd like to have watched it again or downloaded it.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-26 19:52
But I have noticed when I've been to Germany that many players have changed to Bohm clarinets and are not playing on very closed mouthpieces with hard reeds. Like just see how Sabine Meyer plays is very different from what you could have heard in Germany about 20-30 years. Vibrato was a big taboo in German style playing but now I noticed that Wolfgang Meyer is using vibrato something he didn't 10 years ago.
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Author: Gregory Smith ★2017
Date: 2007-04-26 19:58
Based on the "paper over the teeth" diagnosis:
Leister, Combs, even I "bite". Marcellus "bit".
Perhaps there's a more nuanced or alternative explanation other than playing "too hard" a reed or using too much jaw pressure (or not enough embouchure or air support)?
I'm wondering what this diagnosis' genesis is?
Gregory Smith
PS. IMO, the masterclass was a marvelous event in every way.
Post Edited (2007-04-26 19:59)
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Author: awm34
Date: 2007-04-26 20:07
I second the "marvelnous" of the master class. Leister was very demanding but offset it by his genial manner. As a relative newcomer to clarinet (less than 5 years -- "golden" ones at that), I was struck by the gap between talented, serious students and skilled professionals and also by the lack of cultural background exhibited by the students.
Alan Messer
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-26 20:25
I don't need to use paper under my teeth even when playing for 6-8 hours a day for a week. None of my 4 teacher I had(two of them activ professional players) have ever needed to use paper over their bootom teeth. But just to keep it in mind then I don't know of any player here in Iceland using harder reeds than V-12 #3.5
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Author: Bubalooy
Date: 2007-04-26 20:30
One thing for sure. If you're good enough, you'll have lots of critics. What do we care if Mr. Leister bites. I like to hear him play. If it works does it matter if he blows the clarinet with his nose instead of his mouth? If you don't like that he bites, then don't bite, but it has nothing to do with music. I get so tired of reading about the "lack" of something in the German sound. If you don't like it don't emulate it, or is it just envy? Sorry, this has made me a little upset, but what musical relevance is there to whether or not one bites. I think only the complaint bites.
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Author: bufclar
Date: 2007-04-26 21:09
Just because he had paper over his teeth does not mean he bites and if he does then so what. He just performed the Mozart concerto in Berkley with Kent Nagano conducting (and I hear it was a beautiful performance) as well as gave a master class at the San Francisco Conservatory. Maybe his teeth are sharp or maybe as he has aged and has decided over the years that having some sort of cushion provides him with some level of comfort that he is most deffinetly entitled to. It's also raining here in Chicago and maybe his reeds got a little stiff on him and so he needed to bite a bit. You can't take reed knives on a plane you know. I didn't see or hear the class but I definetly repsect Mr. Leister for his fabulous contributions to clarinet playing in Berlin and as a soloist. I know of many fine clarinetists both student and pro who from time to time use some sort of cushion/material for their bottom teeth. To come to the conclusion that they all bite(and therfore are bad or not valueble) is just completely ridculous.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-26 21:15
Bubalooy I don't know but I like Sabine Meyer a bit and also her brother Wolfgang. This has nothing to do with German,French,American etc sounds. I just think that Leister has really pressed sound. I've also got complains from woodwind players(not clarinetists) here in Iceland if I say that I think the German school can be fine. And then the first thing I hear is "I don't like Leisters sound". It's maybe the fact that majority of Icelandic clarinet players have studied in Holland or UK.
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-04-26 21:20
I think you have to bite a little if you're going to get a proper grip with your embouchure (even with a softer set-up). I know that in order to maintain focus and pitch, I certainly adjust my bite pressure during crescendi/decrescendi. I think biting as a concept (and certainly there's such thing as too much "bite") has become too taboo.
Post Edited (2007-04-26 21:22)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2007-04-26 21:35
Did anyone save the streamed presentation? If so, please get in touch with me off-line.
Thanks.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-26 21:38
CEC Is that biting if I play 4-6 hours each day,use the thinnest clear mouthpiece patch from BG and change them maybe once a year not because it has teethmarks all the way through but just because the clue has gone and it's loosing up? In fact I have not once gone through a mouthpiece patch even the thinnest one.
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Author: CEC
Date: 2007-04-26 21:52
Ken,
I don't think it's possible to save a Real video stream, unfortunately (I could be wrong, though). Hopefully someone out there in clarinet-land managed, because I'd certainly love a copy.
Iceland Clarinet,
I use the same bg patches. I don't play 4-6 hours a day anymore, though there have been times in my life when I did (though I was using the thin Bay patches then). I've never cut through a patch, though I do get some slight indentations over time. No doubt, there is such a thing as too much biting, but there is also (in my opinion) such thing as an appropriate amount.
Chris
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Author: Danny Boy
Date: 2007-04-26 22:19
Playing with papers over the teeth is not a bad thing...two point from this...
1) This is Karl Leister, the man makes one of the most beautiful sounds of all time on the instrument, perfectly consistent and generally gorgeous, so if he does bite...I want to as well.
2) Everyone is built differently, with different teeth. Just because one player doesn't need papers, does not mean that anyone who does it biting the mouthpiece too hard. Iceland clarinet, you could have duller front teeth than some of us. I certainly can't play for any length of time without papers these days, there's nothing wrong with my embouchure, and nobody has mentioned it to me in the roughly the past ten years of study. Incidentally, I'll go through a thick black mouthpiece patch in around 10 weeks playing...I simply have sharp teeth.
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Author: haberc
Date: 2007-04-26 23:59
For all those with a problem biting you can always try double lip....of course you might bite through your skin
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-27 00:11
Danny Boy I see you are from UK I didn't know that British clarinet players prais Karl Leisters sound. For me his tone is boring,forced and lacks the varied in tone color. As I said before I like Sabine Meyer more for German school of playing and her tone is much more relaxed expressive. I also have to say that I think if I were starting in musicschool and I had Leister to play the clarinet for me I think I would have choosen Saxaphone instead.
Danny Boy you seems to have fetish for Karl Leister no problem but then I have to tell you that I have fetish for Reginald Kell and Gervase de Peyer.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2007-04-27 00:45
Ah, the siren call of the "traditional school" of British clarinet playing. I'm sure Gervase would love to hear he is still in demand.
I've gone through many phases of admiring different schools of playing but there is always one common thread, as drastically different their sounds are, all communicate a very powerful message through their music making. This is what is important. How you get there is merely in the details.
...........Paul Aviles
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Author: Aaron
Date: 2007-04-27 01:37
I was at the class, and I thought that it was nothing short of amazing. So what if you don't like his sound? So what if he bites? GET OVER IT. NEITHER of these things affect his ability to make breathtaking music. If you had listened to Leister, you would have heard him speak of how sound is an extremely personal matter, and no one can truly copy it. I don't want to sound just like Leister, but there are certainly many aspects of his clarinet playing that need to be emulated. And as far his music making goes, he is a giant.
Leister is a musician AND teacher of the first degree, as I learned at the class. His depth of understanding and ability to pass on this understanding to students is an incredible triumph. I was nothing short of amazed by him. Did you see the way that the music moved him (literally)? Did you hear how enthusiastically he spoke about the music itself? It was an inspiration. Leister is what's right with classical music today.
It is this kind of sound bashing, equipment crazed banter that has brought this BBoard away from the area of intelligent, thought provoking topics to a shade of its former self. USE THE SEARCH TOOL and you will find the wealth of information that is here. No one cares about your mouthpiece or barrel or reed or mouthpiece patch etc etc ad nauseum. I think that a lot (definitely not all) of people here need to realize that you are in fact clarinet playing musicians, NOT music playing clarinetists.
I think it would be in everyone's best interests if before you post a topic, you think about whether or not it really even matters, or if you are just posting for the sake of posting. Then, instead of wasting precious space on this valuable BBoard, you should do something productive... like PRACTICE. Or listen to some great music.
I'm sorry for digressing, but reading an entire thread devoted to picking apart Karl Leister for using paper to protect his lip is absurd.
Aaron
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-27 02:20
Aaron I don't know how old you are but it sounds a little bit like we have you don't teach an old dog to sit sittuation here.
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2007-04-27 06:20
My colleague studied with Leister. Leister uses extremely SOFT reeds. So I'd very much doubt that he bites.
Iceland clarinet- just because you don't understand the beauty in what a musician does, doesn't mean that what they are doing isn't beautiful. I remember when I was younger and how I was fixed only on certain players and styles and found everything else lacking. As years passed I played with more and more musicians and broadened my sensitivity to various aspects of music making. Now I can appreciate a lot more music and a lot more musicians than I used to.
Who knows, maybe one day you'll be a Leister fan? ;-)
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2007-04-27 10:43
at a masterclass I attended, I remember Leister using thin leather, not paper. If you think he uses paper because he bites then maybe you don't know that the type of teeth you have makes a difference as to the pain you have in your lip and what you do about it. Some people have sharp teeth- plain and simple. Also, Leister uses soft reeds- always has.
And one more thing about his sound or anything else one can say about him (or anyone). No matter what we think of it, he is the one with the long, great career- not us. There aren't many people from any school from any country that have as long or successful career as Leister. If you want a job in music (and I sure do) one has to look at the 'greats' and see what one can learn. He wouldn't have been able to do what he has if he wasn't good at it.
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Author: clarinetmaniac101
Date: 2007-04-27 11:54
I did happen to catch this materclass. One word awesome. The pieces that he talked about I happened to have all of them and was very fortunate to have the piece right in front of me so that way I could see what he was telling the students to do. I do agree that I didn't like any of Mr.Cohens students, their playing really was very alike it really bored me sometimes. The girl who played the Brahms in F minor I thought was the best up there. As for Karl Leisters playing I happen to like it yeah it's alittle thin at times but his tone other wise is very fantastic. The thinks he talked about were very beneficial to me and I sure it was very beneficial to the students as well. Other than that I think this whole masterclass was just amazing everything about it was great as far as waht to do with the music the worst aspect of it was the students not pleased at all with them.
Rashad
*clarinet
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Author: jane84
Date: 2007-04-27 12:28
"I was struck by the gap between talented, serious students and skilled professionals and also by the lack of cultural background exhibited by the students."
"the worst aspect of it was the students not pleased at all with them."
"it was terrific. Everyone played well"
I'm getting curious - anyone care to elaborate?
-jane
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2007-04-27 15:12
Interesting, I've been through this entire thread 2x and found no mention of Herr Leister's advice. That seems odd to me.
Bob Phillips
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-27 23:03
Hmmm Emma Johnson and Thea King have had good carrers(I'm not going to say why King has had good carrer) but I don't know many people that thinks they are good players. It might be that most listerners to Emma Johnson are not clarinet players and know nothing about clarinet playing.
BTW I did not say that Leister uses soft or hard reeds. I only said that he sound's like he bites and therfore his tone is very pressed and ugly. Eduard Brunner use soft reeds but he also sounds like he bites alot and his tone is just VERY ugly. Don't mix biting with hard reeds.
Bob Phillips read my first reply again.
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Author: Phurster
Date: 2007-04-28 05:35
The subjective nature of listening and appreciating music continues to astonish me. How anyone could say Karl Leisters sound is “pressed and ugly” is beyond belief. At the same time Iceland Clarinet professes an admiration of the tone of Reginald Kell. Ah well…each to their own. I admire the way Kell followed his musical convictions I can’t say the actual sound has ever appealed to me.
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Author: ClarinetTex
Date: 2007-04-28 06:20
I think every clarinetist offers something unique to the artistic spectrum. I really enjoy Leister performances of Crussel and Mozart. Karl Leister has a prolific history in music. I would take his advice anyday.
As far as the paper on the teeth, I have been cursed with uneven lower teeth and some are very sharp. I actually use floral adhesive tape as a cushion or I would bleed.
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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-04-30 04:23
I will only post a quick note that I was at his master class in Madison today, and he is magnificent. I should have a recording of each section - but I have not listened to find out the quality. Also, hopefully some of my pictures will turn out nicely if anyone is interested
The pieces played in the class were:
Rossisi IntroTheme'
Stravinsky 3
Brahms Sonata 1, mvt. 1
Weber Concerto 2, vt. 1
Saint-Saens mvt. 4
Brahms Trio
I could not notice any tape or anything on his teeth, and although he leaked some air - does anyone really care? His sound is smooth, round and velvety. His musicianship and precision clearly mark his mastery.
If you have any questions regarding his comments, let me know - I'll see what he said, if anything. His insight into fingerings is interesting and tonal concept, excellent!
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2007-04-30 05:16
Why somoene is so obssesed with Leister's paper (or whatever) on his teeth is a mystery that even Poirot and Holmes together wouldn't be able to solve!
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-30 05:48
Smooth, round and velvety is something that I find boring in clarinet tone I want some edge and roughness in the tone. And clarnibass I don't care if he use paper or not under his teeth he still bites and his sound is pressed.
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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-04-30 06:45
Well my point exactly. I didn't notice paper - I looked only because it was mentioned on the board.
There's good sound and bad sound. Everyone has a different opinion of what they favor, but a rich, consistent tone all across the registers is something we all strive for.
I honestly didn't find his tone boring at all. I can see how it doesn't have the "French" (as he calls it) ringing quality, but aren't we always striving for a more mellow quality - while keeping the overtones?
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2007-04-30 12:35
Kuteclar- "Everyone has a different opinion of what they favor, but a rich, consistent tone all across the registers is something we all strive for."
Not for everyone. I try to have a color that changes from bottom to top. That is just my taste- some want an even sound throughout, but some don't.
and- "honestly didn't find his tone boring at all. I can see how it doesn't have the "French" (as he calls it) ringing quality, but aren't we always striving for a more mellow quality - while keeping the overtones?"
Again- not everyone. some like a bright sound. to be honest, you all know the "ring" above middle B that is an important part of the "French" sound??? Well, I like that ring to be all the way down as far as I can get it. But again; my tastes... might not be for everyone.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2007-04-30 17:06
Though it is probably not a good point to weigh in again, I think it important to clarify that the "German Sound" has more to do with the configuration of the bore and the size of the mouthpiece (more like our "C" clarinet) than a function of some twist to the embouchure. You will find more similarities in the timbre of Leister, Prinz, Meyer, the folks with the Netherland's Wind Ensemble, etc. than you will find differences.
From what I remember in the mid eighties, Leister used a leather patch glued to the top of his mouthpiece (fact), and mentioned (at the time) that he was curious about double lip technique but was not able to do it due to his bite (no mention of lower lip cushions or reed strengths.....sorry).
The difference in playing styles of these clarinetists from others also has to do in large part to the national identity of the milieau in which they grew up and studied. Keep in mind the first and second World Wars help segregate the Germanic countries and gave their orchestras a clearly defined difference in sound for several generations.
Now, whether a good thing or a bad thing there is a tendency toward a universally homogenized sound. Soon, perhaps there will be no arguments over the different styles, just who is better at taking auditions. Personally I don't look forward to the fruition of this trend.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2007-04-30 17:07
People just listen to Kari Kriikku or Michael Collins they deffinatly don't have dark sound. Ok I might strive for consistent sound all through out the entry range but I like to be able to vary the sound as much I can to suite each demanding piece. That's one reason I like Buffet Festival clarinets more than any other Buffet clarinet. I also plan in the futuher to try Eaton clarinets as I find the big English bore to be interesting.
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Author: kuteclar
Date: 2007-04-30 18:39
I agree. I like to vary my sound, sometime darker, sometimes more ring depending on the situation, ensemble and repertoire, but we try our best to get it consistent from top to bottom - in any style. Who wants 3 notes to pop out in the middle of a phrase just because they are brighter than the others - it's a matter of consist tone quality I was trying to get at this consistency of tone. His playing is more "mellow" - but very stable throughout all ranges. His precision and detail to each note had incredible mastery.
Also, I thought I must mention that Karl was the one constantly mentioning the "French" clarinets in regards to fingerings, tuning and some other discrepancies the instrument brings. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but there are differences.
The bore size, thickness, mouthpiece, string ligature and all factors make his sound the way it is.
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Author: musiciandave
Date: 2007-05-01 22:52
With the Creative X-Fi Soundcard there is a program which records whatever plays through the speakers.
including the master class.
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2007-05-02 02:31
Well said Liquorice, I used to hate Stoltzman sound, I also could not hear what people found exciting about Harold Wright, not to mention the *entire* british school of play. I had a CD of teh mozart quintet by Eduard Brunner and that was the way it was supposed to be played. As I get older I appreciate much more what musicians are trying to do. There was another thread somewhere about how we as clarinet players are so obsessive about our sound. How about phrasing? How about understanding your place in a harmonic progression? How about sounding like a duck if that is what is required? Karl Leister has a career that speaks for itself, and he probably could care less what this BBoard thinks of him. Like any musician he plays certain music better than others. I like his romantic and classical stuff , but the more recent music I like less. Comparing him to Kari Kriikku or Michael Collins is comparing apple and oranges. First of all, strictly speaking, they play different instruments, but more importantly they represent completely different styles of play.
--
Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2007-05-02 12:15
I would also add there are also numerous tuning deficiencies on the Oehler clarinet as well...one problem I have encountered with them in playing them is the variance in pitch across the throat register. Some notes are quite low and others quite high. Also the sound on the Oehler can be quite thin in certain areas of the altissimo register and there is also the dreaded hooty sound. So again it all depends on the player...Leister is very good but I would like to mention a few other very fine Oehler and Vienna School players others should try listening to..
Alfred Prinz...so musical and his Brahms is the very finest out there.
Leopold Wlach...fantastic player. His recordings are from the 50s era and he used a wooden mouthpiece as well.
Peter Schmidl...very nice player with super control.
Herbert Stahr...a great player with a fine Brahms Quintet on Philips former
Berlin Philharmonic player as well with a more traditional german sound.
Ernst Ottensamer...very nice current Vienna Player.
David Dow
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Author: soggychicken
Date: 2007-12-28 18:13
For future reference, here's a list of programs that can record real media streams.
http://all-streaming-media.com/record-video-stream/all-streaming-video-recording-software.htm
Post Edited (2007-12-28 18:15)
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Author: Dominic
Date: 2007-12-28 19:27
Thanks for the link clockwiser!
Inspirational!
Dominic
Cardiff, UK
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Author: Wes
Date: 2007-12-29 02:24
Sorry I missed this great event. For those who have sharp teeth, your dentist can quickly and safely make them less sharp and easier to play with!
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Author: armadillo
Date: 2007-12-29 08:51
I have extremely sharp and ragged bottom teeth. I got my dentist to make a small plastic plate that fits nicely over my bottom front four teeth and playing is now very comfortable. The extra millimetre of thickness opens up the jaw just that little bit more too and I'm sure I sound better with the plate in.
(btw re Leister his Mozart is easily my favourite recording of my 7 or so K622s.)
buffet R13, VD M30, V12 #3, VD Klassik (perf. & reh)/Rovner leather(practice)
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Author: clockwiser
Date: 2007-12-29 10:34
Hi guys, do you know a way to download the movie (mov. file) as a standalone file rather than a link? I tried the software soggychicken provided but did not work, it only captured the link.
Thanks.
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Author: NorbertTheParrot
Date: 2007-12-29 15:19
Pace David Blumberg, "Save as" doesn't work. All you will save is a 2kb file. It isn't the whole movie, just a link to it. You can't view the 2kb file unless you are online and the hosting site allows you to do so.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2008-01-01 17:30
I used the links clockwiser provided to Karl Leister's master class and got it started once. I stopped it planning to come back and view it all later. Now I can't get it at all! I've tried everything suggested, reloaded quick time, downloaded the lastest quick time, still nothing.
I can get to the main site but the videos don't load. Have they been removed or what? Anyone have any ideas?
Clarinet Redux
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Author: clockwiser
Date: 2008-01-01 21:13
Old Geezer,
I've just checked the link, it is still there and working.. phew!
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Author: beejay
Date: 2008-01-02 00:01
Hmmm Emma Johnson and Thea King have had good carrers(I'm not going to say why King has had good carrer) but I don't know many people that thinks they are good players. It might be that most listerners to Emma Johnson are not clarinet players and know nothing about clarinet playing.
Iceland clarinet. Allow me to come to the defense of these ladies. I am a clarinetist and I happen to like their style and their choice of music. A chacun son gout! But at least I am prepared to substantiate my positition, which is more than you did yours.
Happy new year.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2008-01-02 15:34
I don't know if I've saved the whole video of the Leister master class or not...but after I've closed my ISP connection (AOL) I can call up my Quick Time player and play the whole video from there as a Quick Time favorite. I don't know how it's working but I can play the whole video apparantly off line?!?
Clarinet Redux
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Author: William
Date: 2008-01-03 20:26
I was also at the Madison, WI masterclass that Kuteclar attended, and would like to go on record as saying Karl Leister is (IMNSHO) the finest clarinettist I have ever heard play in person--Stolzman, Combs, Neidich, Bruce-Yeh, just to name a few. His tone quality was rich and full, not the thick "german" sound I had expected. His techical control was impecable and phrasings always musical--and all this after his clarinet had been idle during the students performance. Without any note tests or even moistening of the reed, he just simply put the mpc in his mouth and played "how this phrasing should be" in the most effortless and expressive manner one could ever hope for. To my eye, he did appear to use a covering for his lower teeth, but in my opinion, that is totally irellevant--his playing was supurb in every way. I feel quite fortunate to have heard live, one of the true legendary clarinetists of all times "up close and personable" on that Sunday afternoon--an experiance I shall always remember.
The truely great ones always make it look and sound easy.
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2008-01-04 05:26
Yeah his Master Class was outstanding! The way he could pick up his clarinet and instantly, without so much as a warmup breath, whip out perfectly in tune examples was surprising. I've viewed it a couple of times and ready for a third.
The clarinetists weren't bad...I thought the young woman who did the Sonata was best and seemed the most attentive to the great coaching
she was getting.
Clarinet Redux
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2008-01-05 01:55
"I second the "marvelnous" of the master class. Leister was very demanding but offset it by his genial manner. As a relative newcomer to clarinet (less than 5 years -- "golden" ones at that), I was struck by the gap between talented, serious students and skilled professionals and also by the lack of cultural background exhibited by the students.
Alan Messer"
Care to elaborate?
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2011-06-19 12:04
Perhaps Iceland's position and opinions have matured since these posts?
Peter Cigleris
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Author: fernie51296
Date: 2011-06-19 18:19
i apologize. i didnt realize how old this thread was. ill be sure to pay more attention to that next time. ![[whoa]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie10.gif)
Fernando
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Author: zhangray4
Date: 2016-04-26 20:09
@kuteclar is there a way for you to send or share the videos of the Master Class you attended with me? All the pieces you mentioned that were discussed are pieces I have played and will need to audition with. Thanks in advance!
-- Ray Zhang
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Author: fernie121
Date: 2020-09-06 07:19
Does anyone know where I can watch this masterclass again? I have some young students I wanted to share it with. It used to be on pick-staiger but I can not find it anymore. His insight on Brahms sonata no.1 is one of my favorites!
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