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Author: C2thew
Date: 2007-03-31 03:51
I just picked one up and am hoping to double on clarinet and bassoon. Anyone have any info on these instruments and what level they are? Bassoons are a total new world to me and i've never played one longer than 5 minutes. I did notice that the bell on the bassoon is yellow and i want to bring back the white ring on it like so many other bassoons; any ideas on how to bring back the color? i've tried putting some clorox bleach just on the ring which didn't do much. it's as if it's been penetrated from the wood (is red)
anyone have any history about moennigs? thanks
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2007-03-31 15:13
The yellow bell ring might be a well-aged ring made of ivory. Real ivory hasn't been used for much for the last thirty years (other than folk art objects), so that "yellow" ring may actually be a historic artifact, a relic of an era not to be seen again.
Incidentally, there are all sorts of rule governing ivory sales, but I've never heard of them applying to old pianos, much less bassoons. It would be interesting to hear from an expert as to whether there would be restrictions on musical instrument importing and sales.
(So wonders the guy whose old, second-hand bassoon also has a yellowish-brown bell ring...)
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Author: cairngorm
Date: 2007-04-01 00:47
If it's an old horn it should have an old, yellow ring (unless it's been replaced). I wouldn't worry about it. Denotes wisdom!
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Author: Wes
Date: 2007-04-09 08:04
Horst Moennig worked in Los Angeles at the Baxter Northrup music store, I've heard. He was from the musical Moennig family and was highly respected. I bought an oboe with his name on it which had a very good sound. A Buffet english horn I have has his initials scratched into the back sides of the keys and also has April 1916 Baxter Northrup marked on the double case. Also, I recall that Harry Baxter married a Moennig woman.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-04-22 17:36
Pretty much all the plastic bell rings on older European bassoons I've seen have turned yellow or orange due to the type of plastic used and exposure to UV.
Ivory bell rings tend to remain ivory colour, though they can either become loose or split due to the effects of humidity on the maple.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BassoonWorks
Date: 2008-08-10 05:10
The Moennig family dispersed through the United States and each brother imported instruments from the family business (in Germany). Most just stamped them "Moennig" or "Gebruder Moennig", but Horst chose to have his own stamp made. They are identical to the other Moennigs.
The keywork and quality will depend on the vintage of the instrument. And the bell rings were always plastic...no ivory. So the yellowing is consistent with its age. The only way to make it white is to either paint it or replace it. INHO not worth the effort so long as it protects the bell (its only purpose).
If properly restored and overhauled, many of these Moennigs can be wonderful instrument often with a rich sound, darker and more modulated than student Foxes. Good luck!
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Author: oldbassoon
Date: 2009-04-19 23:32
Hello, I owned a moennig bassoon many many years ago which was destroyed in a fire. talking about 20+ years ago. moennig = german maker also made oboes, clarinets,etc. more Info on really vintage Instruments has http://www.music-oldtimer.com they selling, repair and appraise vinage Bassoons and in business for ages. also wwwmusicexperts.com can help further. good luck,John
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Author: Mordisquitos
Date: 2010-05-25 17:29
Do not buy from music-oldtimer.com!!!!!
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Here are some more complaints posted on the Internet by others who had more or less the same problem as me:
http://forum.saxontheweb.net/showthread.php?129160-www-Music-Oldtimer-com
http://www.amazon.com/tag/music%20instruments/forum/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2S2GHAVTZFNMH&cdThread=Tx3IABCZ8NCPRHO&displayType=tagsDetail
http://www.ripoffreport.com/music-shops/kg-global-inc/kg-global-inc-karsten-goetze-24b5d.htm
http://www.ciao.de/Erfahrungsberichte/www_music_oldtimer_com__8471526
(sorry, this last one's in German)
Don't be next!!!!
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Author: samson45
Date: 2010-07-20 01:56
its good to here but i don't know how to use the the instrument....did i ask how to use the bassoon..???its terefic to here that i want to use the clarinet and the bassoon....
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