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 What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: OBleon 
Date:   2023-03-18 05:30

I found on the Internet that the stick-shaped key next to D key is called Gillet Key. I wonder whether that's correct or not. Also, I never use it to play notes. Is it simply because I haven't played the certain pieces that require this key (I just start learning to play the oboe recently), or there are some other functions about this design?

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2023-03-18 16:30
Attachment:  P7150005.JPG (687k)

The banana key or Gillet key is to make a low C-Db slur or trill easier - you have to hold the banana key down with RH3 and that frees up your RH pinky to use the C# key.

Not the easiest key to use as it can cause a leak on the RH3 fingerplate when reaching across to use the banana key. Oboes with a LH C# key don't have the banana key as it's redundant on them (see attachment).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: Hotboy 
Date:   2023-03-20 21:23

Chris, does the photo you posted show a left C#? I don't see it.

When I was a teen, I briefly played on an oboe with a left C#, and it was wonderful. although I cannot remember the brand...maybe Jarde? I didn't have the use of it long enough to gain the facility of left Db to right Eb to left F.

The C-C# trill key next to RH3 has been called the "banana key" by many US pros that I've known.

Dane
Bay Area, California

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2023-03-21 01:14
Attachment:  P7150005.JPG (687k)

The LH C# touchpiece is below the LH Eb touch and on the inside of the LH F key. It's all part of the LH pinky cluster instead of a separate long lever like you'd usually see on oboes with the long C#. I found it much easier to make and fit it this way without having to alter the oboe itself (besides milling a slot in the body under the feather key foot as you'd have on cors and d'amores).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: Hotboy 
Date:   2023-03-21 03:13

I see it now...looks great, wish I had one!

Dane
Bay Area, California

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: belle 
Date:   2023-03-28 09:15

I've often wondered whether a left C# would be worth it. I have skinny fingers and a bad right wrist and thumb, so the banana key is very awkward for me. Never had the chance to try an instrument with the left touch piece though.

Chris, did you have to get Howarth to custom add that? Or what lovely old model is pictured in that photo?

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2023-03-28 11:27

That's my kingwood S5 (made in 1995) which I added the LH C# key to of my own design as I didn't want to have to move or add loads of extra pillars just for the sake of the one key.

Howarth normally add the LH C# key at the time of order as it's easier to build it that way than to add it afterwards, although they use the long lever-style key rather than this design.

I charted the progress of it in this thread:
http://test.woodwind.org/oboe/BBoard/read.html?f=10&i=20499&t=20477&v=f

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2023-03-30 04:02

How come I never see attachments? I do mean never. Other people seem to.

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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: mschmidt 
Date:   2023-03-30 04:58

I always see them as the third line of the post. For example

Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-03-18 16:30
Attachment: P7150005.JPG

and the "P7150005.JPG" is a link that you can click on to see the jpg.

Mike

Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore



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 Re: What's the stick-shaped key next to D key?
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2023-03-31 02:07

Welp, I never see that either.

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