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 Re: An Exercise in Frustration
Author: oboegy 
Date:   2014-12-02 21:31

In reply to mschmidt:

The issue of how the sides of the cane close just at the end of the staple is a matter of having just the correct tie length determined for a given shape and staple combination. This is an issue for some experimentation first as a paramount consideration. The tie length is correct when the cane sides just close properly precisely at the top of the staple. Once you have it (the proper tie length) determined (within say + or - 0.2 mm), write it down and always set it up first with the cane on the staple before any tying starts.

What I do is place the cane on the end of the staple, more or less aligned properly, and then use a digital caliper to establish the predetermined tie length measured from the bottom of the staple to the top end of the cane. Next, hold the cane and staple together this way with one hand while you mark with a pencil a line across the cane bark (both sides), showing exactly where the end of the staple lies.

Next, keeping everything in place, move over to start tying. Whichever method you use, the pencil lines showing the end of the staple inside the cane become your target for beginning the crossover or ending the top of the wrap. There is no more concern of the cane obscuring how close you are to the top of the staple. If you find one side tending to close a little bit more than the other side, simply shift the cane a little bit sideways while keeping the position on the staple the same until both sides are closing to the same degree right where the pencil marks are.

You can see my pencil marks clearly at the top of the staple in this photo that I took of four tied reed blanks:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/69900046@N06/15656412887/

Once again, this works consistently once you have first determined the proper tie length for a given staple/shape combination. Good luck with your further experimentation now.

George Young
Oboe/English Horn
Amateur from Chicago
(65 yr. old electrical engineer who first took up the oboe at age 53)



Post Edited (2014-12-03 01:08)

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