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Author: Soundstream03
Date: 2014-05-07 21:44
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Hello,
I am new here and love the oboe instruments. My love for the double reed sounds started with the music in The Jungle Book when I was a young kid but never had the money or resources to get an oboe. As a long time self taught Drummer, guitar, bassist, I finally got the chance a few years ago to get an oboe and E horn so I could start learning. As well I have always been a craftsman making a few guitars of my own and I now make english horns for my self from various exotic woods and at times I make replacement bells for people who are missing theirs or wanted an EH style bell for their oboe.
I was curious to see if anyone here might be able to provide me with dimensions from a Bass Oboe so I can begin creation of one for myself. Any thing will help as these will really just be reference. I know I'll end up making it different from the Loree but anything to get me started in the right direction would be a big help. Mainly the over all length of the instrument as well as the bore diameters from the top of the upper joint and at the bottom of the lower joint would be great. Thanks in advance!
Mike
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Author: darryoboe
Date: 2014-05-08 06:13
The only bass oboe I've ever seen/played belonged to the Dallas Symphony. That's not horribly far from you.
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Author: Soundstream03
Date: 2014-05-08 06:58
Very true and I am in Dallas quite often. So would I be able to basically just walk in and ask to measure the bass oboe or would I have to know someone?
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Author: darryoboe
Date: 2014-05-08 17:27
20 years ago I knew exactly who had "custody" of the bass oboe but these days I'm not sure.
My best guess would be David Matthews. The email address I have for him is coranglais@me.com
Post Edited (2014-05-08 17:31)
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Author: WoodwindOz
Date: 2014-05-08 17:41
There are (I think) several bass oboes at University of Illinois (2 working, last I heard). They are held in the Sousa Archives in the UofI bands department. They have an instrument technician onsite who may be able to get the measurements you are after.
Curator of the Archives is Scott Schwartz, oboe professor at UofI is John Dee, and contact details for both should be available on the UofI website. Both would probably be interested to hear about your project.
Rachel
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Author: huboboe
Date: 2014-05-11 00:15
For some interesting perspective, google 'Lupophone'. Invented by a German instrument maker as an alternate choice for this range of double reed, it is innovative and sounds great. I've played it; it plays easily and feels just great...
Robert Hubbard
WestwindDoubleReed.com
1-888-579-6020
bob@westwinddoublereed.com
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Author: heckelmaniac
Date: 2014-05-12 07:24
Bass oboe dimensions:
Loree post-war
Loree pre-war The pre-war Loree bass oboe is a much different instrument
from the post war with respect to bore dimensions, tone hole
placement and tone hole sizing. The resonance and projection
1930s Loree bass oboe is far beyond that of the post-war Loree
bass oboe. Measurements and reamers for both pre-war and
post war types exist in the US.
Fossati, Rigoutat, Marigaux Fairly close to the post-war Loree
Mollenhauer Made in the 1970s, perhaps one, two, or three examples
exist in total. The bore is much larger than the traditional
French style bass oboe. Has an adjustable length bocal
Lupohon Slightly larger bore than the Mollenhauer, though not as
huge as the Heckelphone bore
Oboes.us
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Author: Soundstream03
Date: 2014-05-13 07:52
Thanks for all the info! From that it seems like there are many differnet measurements that can work. So basically I guess I'm best off trying my own dimensions and seeing what I can get to work and improve form there. I figured if I had some close dimensions I wouldn't have to make a bunch of different reamers (which definately takes me a while.) I have made a few English horn reamers with satisfactory results but i really need to find a video or something that can better explain the conical boring/reaming process. On another note I'd really love to get a hold of some old reamers laying around shops that maybe some of the top makers no longer have use for. Just the way they are designed would probably explain alot. Thanks again for all the knowledge!
Mike
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