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 English Horn high B-natural
Author: Oboelips 
Date:   2014-01-15 22:53

Hi, all--any advice you can offer will be appreciated..

I am playing in a Prokofiev "Cinderella" production. I am playing English Horn, as a cyst in my palm has forced me to take a break from my orchestra's Oboe I position (so..I am not the most experienced English Hornist out there).

I play a UU series Cabart. I use a Loree #2 bocal with it. Nearly every note on it is gorgeous-nice, full, dark, and it will "sing", from low B-natural clear up to G-3. With the exception of B3. Yes, the one above the staff. I have tried adding the low C or C# key, but while that helps a wee bit, it doesn't create the stable B that I'm looking for. This note also tends to run sharp.

Of course, nearly all the solos for English Horn in the Prokofiev feature this B3.  :)


The 3rd space C is right on the money.
The Ab above the staff is stable.
This instrument had a thorough going-over by my repairman last month in preparation for using it this month. He gave it the 'pro' setup, as he said that it is a pro model. (I think this must mean all cork pads?) He likes this instrument, and says it is a "really, really, nice one".

For reeds, I make my own, wired.
I generally use Giocobassi shape on Ghys cane, or Coelho shape, also on Ghys cane, but I've experimented with other types of cane too.
My reeds are generally a bit bigger & longer than purchased reeds (I have some Wally Bhosys reeds, and I make mine as close as I can to those).
I tried some miscellaneous old purchased reeds from yesteryear, and they don't hold the secret to a good B-natural either.

Any advice? Have I left out details? I also tried playing on the very tip of the reed. That helps a bit, but it still is a scary note..

Oboefully,
Deb

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 Re: English Horn high B-natural
Author: OboeLover4Life 
Date:   2014-01-16 05:18

Hi Deb!

Have you tried different bocals? I've noticed this can make a huge difference with the stability of my upper register. Laubin and Hiniker make some kick-ass ones!

I had a similar issue but with my High C and switching to a Laubin fixed the problem.

If music be the food of love, play on. ~William Shakespeare

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 Re: English Horn high B-natural
Author: concertmaster3 
Date:   2014-01-16 08:07

I suggest a different bocal as well...I've put my Fossati bocal on a number of instruments and it made them really sing, and eliminated some of the problem notes.

There's also the harmonic fingerings...
II 123|12-
II 12-|12-

One of those may work for you. Good luck!

Ron Ford
Woodwind Specialist
Performer/Teacher/Arranger
http://www.RonFordMusic.com

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 Re: English Horn high B-natural
Author: cjwright 
Date:   2014-01-16 07:10

It depends on the bocal as most people have mentioned already, but I sometimes put a combination of RH2, RH3, or Low C# down, sometimes all of them.

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 Re: English Horn high B-natural
Author: Wufus 
Date:   2014-01-18 00:28

I agree with Cooper. Usually the RH middle finger is the standard fingering to stabilize the high B.

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 Re: English Horn high B-natural
Author: darryoboe 
Date:   2014-01-21 15:37

I'll echo the person who suggested trying different bocals.

I use a Dallas #7 gold-plated bocal for a dark strong sound, or a Laubin bocal if I'm playing something more delicate that requires a "sweeter" sound.

Both have a fairly solid pitch above the staff (I use a Laubin EH).

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 Re: English Horn high B-natural
Author: Merlin_Williams 
Date:   2014-01-22 03:55

I'm finding this thread helpful. I'm playing EH for a concert on Saturday, and the RH middle finger tip for stabilizing the B is coming in handy.

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