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Author: Loliver
Date: 2013-04-04 18:48
As it says on the tin...
How do you play high G on a dual system (Thumbplate+Conservatoire), as I don't think the ones for pure conservatoire work...
Also, is there an alternative to the high F#...because it sounds fine, as fine as it could do, but its really awkward...
Thanks all 
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-04-04 19:39
Ring key conservatoire system oboes give a good and easy high F# by playing high F and simply opening the side Ab-Bb trill key (the upper overlapping side touchpiece for RH finger 1). Unfortunately full Gillet conservatoire systems don't have this key fitted - the touchpiece in the same position is for the G#-A trill.
Surely if you keep your thumb on the thumbplate, you should be able to use any conservatoire system fingering - what fingering are you using for altissimo G?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Loliver
Date: 2013-04-04 21:38
I don't have a fingering for High G yet...
But here's what I've been using for Altissimo:
C#- TP, 1/2 hole, cover 2nd+3rd holes LH, cover 1st+3rd RH+C key
D - TP, 1/2 hole, cover 2nd+3rd LH, cover 3rd +C key
D# - TP, 1/2 hole, cover 2nd+3rd+LH Ab/G#, cover 3rd +C key
E - TP, 1st+3rd octave keys, 1/2 hole, cover 2nd LH, cover 3rd +C key
F- TP, 1+3, 1/2 hole 1st hole, cover 2nd hole, left Ab/G# key, right hand 3rd hole, C key
F#- same as above, minus thumbplate
So thats what I've been using...and they're fine as there is a nice sequence to it, and the right hand barely changes, but F# is awkward as you have to slide your left hand up, and due to placement of 3rd octave key on dual/thumbplate instruments, which results in it all being rather awkward...
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-04-04 22:47
Here's a few fingerings for altissimo G, all with 1st 8ve (+3rd 8ve) and thumbplate held down:
½oo|xoo
xooG#|xx,oC
x,oo|xooC or
½,oo|xooC - on both of these, LH1 closes the top plate and holds down the small spatula soldered to the top joint C key at the same time.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2013-04-04 22:48)
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Author: Jeltsin
Date: 2013-04-05 10:21
I use
XOXG# | XOOC for G for my thumpplate oboe and my other oboes.
XOO | XOOC for G# (all oboes)
OOO | XOOC for A (works always with the thumbplate oboe and sometimes with one of the other oboes, but I have never played an A with my third oboe).
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Author: Alan Davis ★2017
Date: 2013-05-16 20:20
I don't understand all the nomenclature/coding you are using on this thread. Can someone recommend a website or a book that explains all this? I'm a new oboist; been practicing only about five months and trying to find out all I can about it. My teacher is a good player, but can't answer some of my questions.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-05-17 00:10
Hi Alan, basically you read the chart from left to right (think of your oboe laid down on its side in front of you so the top joint is on your left and the bell is on the right), so x means closed and o means open and ½ means half-holing.
So the first three characters (x, o or ½) represent the left hand (or LH) fingers 1, 2 and 3.
The | is separating them from the right hand (RH) fingers which are the next three characters representing RH fingers 1, 2 and 3 (x or o).
So G is notated as xxx|ooo which is all three LH fingers down and all three RH fingers raised. F natural with the forked fingering is notated as xxx|xox and the key F fingering which I notate as xxx|xx,o.
Low C is xxx|xxxC, low B is xxxB|xxxC and low Bb is xxxBb|xxxC.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Alan Davis ★2017
Date: 2013-05-24 16:12
Chris, thank you for explaining that. It makes sense once you explain it.
Alan
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-05-24 22:38
Forgot to mention the 8ve keys - 8ve1 is the thumb, 8ve2 is the LH1 8ve key and 8ve3 is the third 8ve key.
So upper register E is 8ve1 xxx|xxo and upper register A is 8ve2 xxo|ooo (or xxo|oxo for resonance/tuning).
On fully automatic oboes, they only have the thumb 8ve key and sometimes the 3rd 8ve key - the main 8ve vents switch over automatically like saxes when going between upper register G#-A, so upper register A is written as 8ve xoo|xoo on fully automatic oboes.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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