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 Re: The 11000$ price range
Author: RobinDesHautbois 
Date:   2012-07-04 01:24

Hello again Trond-Bjarne,

Your story is fantastic! What is the weather like in your part of Norway - I mean extremes in temperature, dry/humid seasons?

With wood instruments comes the problem of cracking. Ottawa and Montréal (Canada) are rather bad for extremes (colder than Moscow), but dry climates are the worst. Buffet Crampon has a "Green-line" model that mixes synthetic with wood dust.... but it has a history of breaking the cork-knob of the top joint.

Because you are new, I really don't think a top-of-the-line instrument will help you at all...... this is just my opinion, please feel free to disagree and disregard..... The highest models of instrument may require the skill and expertise of a well-experienced professional. This is difficult for me to judge because I was once a pro (for a very short time), and when I started again after 10 years absence, I already knew what to do. I don't know or understand what new players experience.

Dupin sells "ordinary" oboes. Yamaha and Marigaux (I think) put a synthetic "sleeve" inside the top joint to prevent cracks. This is important for your goal of "3000 hours", because new wood instruments are the most vulnerable to cracks. Used wood instruments are often better when properly restored by an expert repairer.

Synthetic materials do not give lesser-quality sound: Dupin Imperial can come with a synthetic top joint (e.g. Christoph Hartmann), my Lorée (1985) comes with a synthetic top joint and Lorée has for a long time built a full-synthetic instrument with the reputation of sounding identical to the wood instruments.

The best Yamahas are now prized by soloists and orchestra principals in Europe, Asia and are gaining a reputation in the U.S.A. For a beginner oboist, mastering the reed is the most frustrating challenge: you will most likely be using European "short-scrape" style (French or German or something in between).... really important that you talk to a teacher about this.

I think Marigaux or Buffet might help you best with that.... even their "Strasser" model really impressed me .... for sure if you contact them (directly from the web site or through facebook) they will advise you well (tell Renaud Patalowski I sent you). David Walter (search You-Tube for him) is an extraordinary oboist who works with Marigaux and teaches at the Conservatoire de Paris. He is very kind and devoted to teaching: he knows the challenges of the beginner. I wish I could recommend Mönning, but I just don't know them.... ask your teacher.

Through Facebook you might also be able to ask Erik Niord Larsen (Oslo Philharmonic) to find you a good teacher.... tell him I sent you.

Again, what matters for you is:
1. easy, dependable tuning
2. low notes easy to play softly and articulate
3. reed and instrument that will allow you to play freely from pp to ff.

Buffet or Howarth XL might be great for that, but a less expensive model might actually be better.

Good luck!
Let us know what you discover!

Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music

Post Edited (2012-07-04 01:51)

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