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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2012-01-31 18:48
I always assumed that, being French, it was pronounced Bar-RAY, but then on that "stuff oboists say" video, the girl pronounces it "BARE-et", so?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-31 20:26
BAR'-ray - with the emphasis on the first syllable.
Same as Loree - emphasis on the first syllable.
Same as Monet - emphasis on the first syllable.
Same as perfume - emphasis on the first syllable.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: GoodWinds ★2017
Date: 2012-01-31 20:56
Diversity lives. In PARTS of the U.S. it's PER-fume, in others it's per-FUME.
On the West Coast I've only heard 'BARE-it' but that doesn't mean the propre French pronunciation is wrong; it may not get recognized, though.
(Or 'recognised' for Chris P).
GoodWinds
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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2012-01-31 21:34
Mmkay. So here I am with two contradictory answers. Woot. :D
Do I infer then that there is no consensus in the Oboe World? Or is "Bare-it" just a(nother) SoCal thing? lol
Remember that I'm learning oboe all by myself, just me and the Internet and my playalong CDs, so I don't have an oboe teacher or any oboe-playing contemporaries to touch base with on this.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-01-31 21:43
Any native French speakers out there?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: blueoboe
Date: 2012-01-31 23:06
It`s Barr-e (t). ( the "t" is not pronounced).
Exactly as in "Loeillet" , "Jolivet" etc. . The "e" at the end being rather soft spoken. Got it? Certainly not: Bare-it
Best wishes
blueoboe
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Author: GoodWinds ★2017
Date: 2012-02-01 00:51
That's CORRECT... but as Dutchy points out, in Southern California they might not know what/who you are talking about.
Consider it an ignorance / provincial thing.
Bonne chance, tout le monde!
GoodWinds
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Author: JMarzluf
Date: 2012-02-01 01:53
I may live in SoCal now, but I'll always be an Ohio boy at heart. As incorrect as it may be, I have never heard Barret pronounced in any way -- throughout my domestic U.S. travels -- other than: BEAR-it (as in "grin and..."). My guess is that if you pronounce it in any other way, in Decatur or any other town in the U.S. of A., you'll earn a "grin" of a different kind altogether from those who hear you!
Now that that's out of the way, please make sure you observe the E-flat all the way through bar 14 of Melody #2. Yes, that's better. Thank you.
;-)
Jonathan
http://www.marzlufreeds.com/
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Author: oboeandy
Date: 2012-02-01 01:57
My experience is the same as Jonathan's: I've heard only the pronunciation "BARE-it" used throughout the U.S.
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Author: GoodWinds ★2017
Date: 2012-02-01 05:19
...terrible Franco-philes, us. But we DO appreciate our French heritage when it comes to 'American'-scrape reed-making. (Thank you, Mr Tabuteau.)
GoodWinds
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Author: oboemoboe
Date: 2012-02-01 12:45
My first language is french.
It's pronounced "Barrè". I guess "Barr-ay" would be a close bet in English.
Just think "beret" (those round flat hats), but change the first "e" for an "a"!
Cheers!
O.
Post Edited (2012-02-01 12:53)
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2012-02-01 13:16
Well, it's not good French, and it may well be the survival of a very American mistake, but I'm with Jonathan -- and from Ohio, as well, to boot. My teacher always said "BARE - ut".
We could fill several threads with comments about American (even specifically Ohioan) pronunciations that seem to do violence to the original. Where I come from, Berlin is "BER-lun," Milan is "MY-lun," and Chili is "CHYE-LYE".
So in that context, I understand why Barret is "BARE-ut".
You could always just study Prestini instead . . .
Susan
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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2012-02-01 13:35
Okay, thanks, all. I guess that in public I'll go with what is evidently the American standard, "Bare-it", bad French and all. :D
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Author: johnt
Date: 2012-02-01 13:38
"The French don't care what they do actually, as long as they pronounce it properly."
GBS (Professor Henry Higgins in Pygmalion)
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Author: GoodWinds ★2017
Date: 2012-02-01 15:20
AMAZING pronunciations. You wonder how we manage to communicate at all, speaking English...
GoodWinds
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