 The Oboe BBoard
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Author: Surprenant
Date: 2010-12-16 01:15
I'd love to hear what a musette (piccolo oboe) sounds like. Does anyone know of any recordings online or elsewhere? I hear the instrument is occasionally used in movie soundtracks etc. Thanks.
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Author: RobinDesHautbois
Date: 2010-12-26 14:48
It would seem that the musette is really more in use in Continental Europe (same with the barytone/bass oboe).... I do wish more Europeans would participate in this BBoard.
I can only imagine that the tone is clearer and more piercing. I don't know why it is prefered. For picolo trumpets (same with double horns), the point is not to play higher, but to make the high register easier by keeping the harmonics farther apart.
Though the oboe uses a key and tube-length mechanism, harmonics still play a role in the fingerings of the high register: for example, you can get an A above the staff with a D fingering and the 2nd octave key.
Please let us know if you find any sound clips.
Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-07-26 16:34
I'd love to hear what a musette sounds like when playing MUSIC and not this infernal racket! Seems I'm not alone judging by the comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKTHapd_io
4:16 to 5:08 is the most enjoyable part of this video.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2011-07-26 16:41)
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Author: JRC
Date: 2011-07-26 17:22
You are not kidding... I mean the enjoyable part.
Post Edited (2011-07-26 17:23)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-07-26 17:29
Although the best bit is when it finishes.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: mschmidt
Date: 2011-07-26 17:54
Did you listen to part two?
Mike
Still an Amateur, but not really middle-aged anymore
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-07-26 18:35
There's got to be a GOOD example of a musette out there, not just this heap of squeaky gate crap that doesn't do any justice!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: GoodWinds ★2017
Date: 2011-07-27 02:18
after all the comments I decided to not even bother.
GoodWinds
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2011-07-27 02:23
Sounds like what happens when someone steps on the dog's tail.
Susan
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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2011-07-27 03:02
After consulting Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe_musette
and rummaging around on Youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMlz3Wy3b1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldi1UBdaHec
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Author: oboeandy
Date: 2011-07-29 00:31
I think that the first example of a musette posted here is a fantastic piece that the musicians of ELISION perform with incredible energy, intelligence, and fearlessness.
To me, it is very clear that the the musette sounds full and powerful playing pitches that are likely to sound puny and constricted on the oboe. I'd love to see more composers start writing for the rarer oboes in ANY musical style.
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Author: A.U.K
Date: 2011-07-29 12:51
I'm at a loss re the 1st performance..maybe I am just too ill educated to grasp the point..I don't dispute for a moment that the musicians used considerable intelligence, fearlessness and energy but one wonders if their energies would have been better served elsewhere..
Naturally I am falling into a trap that music should be melodic and memorable..there are many contemporary works which achieve this..Paul Pattersons "Duologue" for example is magnificent but it is music in a more traditional sense, though still not everyones cup of tea..The work being discussed however left me cold and the dog howling..(she's very discerning and a brutal critic)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-07-29 13:42
I don't doubt the performer's ability either - there's another clip of him playing a Lupophone, but alas it's yet more squeaky gate at the local NCDL dog pound with seagulls overhead stuff.
Obvoiusly I prefer Heinz Holliger's playing and the fact he's a universal master of his art and encompasses all oboe literature from Baroque right through to the avant-garde, so his clips offer better insight into the sound of the instrument as the composer hasn't just flicked a fountain pen across a sheet of manuscript paper and joined the dots up.
I know what I like and I definitely don't like this sort of 'music'.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: oboeandy
Date: 2011-07-29 15:31
Everyone's entitled to his or her preferences. I certainly have mine. What concerns me is the suggestion that what one doesn't like mustn't be "music" at all.
I try to delight in the amazingly wide spectrum of "music" that exists – to cite two arbitrary examples – from the sparseness of Feldman to the excesses of R. Strauss. Personally, it inspires me to see musicians specializing in repertoire that appeals to them; the proliferation of early and new music ensembles makes the musical landscape much more exciting to me.
I suppose it's unfortunate that a repertoire of melodic works doesn't exist for the musette (or, for that matter, the bass oboe), so it must be the work of today's performers and composers to build one!
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Author: A.U.K
Date: 2011-07-29 16:35
its horses for courses..different folks enjoy different things and I am not qualified to comment on the Avant Garde..I just didnt particularly enjoy it. I take nothing away from the musicians who are playing it.
Andrew
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Author: Surprenant
Date: 2011-08-04 12:35
Thanks for the replies. The pieces by Maderna are interesting, although I don't see how Concerto No. 2 for Oboe has a musette soloist.
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