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Author: Jaysne
Date: 2010-08-12 17:40
In beginner's books, they have the kid hold down the pinky Eb key when playing forked F.
Anyone know why this is?
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Author: kimber
Date: 2010-08-12 19:07
Most beginner oboes don't have the F resonance mechanism - so adding the Eb usually helps vent it. Sadly though, many students do learn on oboes that have the resonance key and yet the band teacher doesn't correct what is taught in the book. Terrible habit to get into...harder to break than using the forked F when it should be left F.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-08-12 21:29
Basic beginner model oboes such as Bundy, Armstrong, Larilee, Yamaha, etc. that only go to low B will most likely lack the forked F vent, so adding the Eb key will vent it properly.
Some pro oboes may also lack the F vent, though may have the LH F key instead.
To be honest, the F vent could do with being completely redesigned to make it far more efective than it is on some instruments, but the problem is some players don't like radical solutions which can benefit, and would rather suffer with traditional designs and poor tonal quality (and still moan about it) because that's what they're familliar with. But that's their loss.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: WoodwindOz
Date: 2010-08-13 02:01
I play on a plastic Yamaha for outdoor band gigs and I have no choice but to vent forked F with Eb. Not only does it bring the pitch up to pretty well match standard F, it improves the tone to bring it line with the rest of the scale (ie. makes it brighter).
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Author: wkleung
Date: 2010-08-13 17:51
Right, it is amazing (and amusing) to me that many are resistant to changes. Many oboes in the US don't have the 3rd octave key, because Tabeteau didn't have one on his ...
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Author: Ian White
Date: 2010-08-13 18:33
........ some people I know who a have a third octave don't know how to use it or never do. Along with banana keys etc.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-08-13 20:44
Some people have a LH F key fitted and don't know what it's used for.
Some people don't realise you can do a Db-Eb trill by keeping the LH Eb key held down and trilling with the C#.
Some people don't realise on intermediate/pro oboes there's a C-D trill key for RH1 and they still use the LH C-Db trill instead (as that's where it was on their beginner thumbplate model).
Some people...
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: jhoyla
Date: 2010-08-14 19:25
.. or that you can trill A# B by pressing the G# lever, instead of using that tiny spatula ..
or that there is a low b-C# connection ..
but the C "banana" key is just useless.
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2010-08-15 02:51
<<but the C "banana" key is just useless>>
Yes. Totally.
S.
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Author: RobinDesHautbois
Date: 2010-08-15 13:22
I use the banana key so much, I actually covered it with a sliver of wine-cork to get it closer.
I use the 3rd ocatve key extensively as I just LOVE the highest register. I sometimes also use it to replace the half-hole and-or 1st octave, especially in trills, key when the weather plays tricks on the sound. Sometimes notes will sound windy, the 3rd octave key alleviates that.
I must confess, however, that since the revoicing of my Lorée, the benefit of the 3rd octave key is less evident.
As for the for the forked F, whatever works on your specific instrument! I find the forked-F easier to use than the left-hand key in many orchestral excerpts. However, to put in the Eb is not habitual to me. I don't need the key, my Lorée's resonance key does the trick.
Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music
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Author: jhoyla
Date: 2010-08-15 19:05
It is probably because you modified the key yourself, that it is useful to you. The dexterity required to use the banana key and successfully close both keys is normally beyond regular players with unmodified instruments.
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