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Author: hautboy
Date: 2009-09-09 18:54
I have a 3rd octave key on my Loree Royal, but I never use it. I don't even know if there are specific notes that it was designed to be used for. What notes, specifically, were meant to be used with the 3rd octave key? It doesn't work well for all upper ocave notes. Personally, I don't find the 3rd octave key to be necessary, but that's just my opinion.
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Author: D
Date: 2009-09-09 19:21
Personally F# is almost impossible for me without it. But as I understand it it is very specific to your oboe make and model and how it is adjusted and that is before you take your reeds and playing into account.
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2009-09-09 20:03
I play up to high G without the third octave key. I'll use it for high G# and high A, which is once a year.
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Author: Ehafb
Date: 2009-09-09 21:56
I have a buffet and use 3rd octave key for any note above high E. Not of the top register speak without it. Not sure if its just m or my oboe
Bryan
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-09-09 22:27
The 3rd 8ve key will help notes speak easier from altissimo E upwards (especially when playing quietly), and adjust it so it barely opens, but still opens enough to make these top notes speak clearly and also raises the pitch of them if they are a bit flat.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: HautboisJJ
Date: 2009-09-10 00:48
For fast runs in the top register the 3rd octave key to me is indispensable. I use some short fingerings from top E onwards that make the world look like a better place, especially when it is really fast, i mean, FAST. When such situations occur i would then take:
D 0xx|000c
D# 0xx|000c G#
E 0x0|000 3rd oct
F 0x0|000 G# 3rd oct
F# /x0|xx0 G# 3rd oct / = half hole, G# is dispensable but would make the transition from F easier and going to high G easier as well.
G x0x|x00 G# 3rd oct depending on the reed, sometimes it speaks easily even without LH3.
Of course, on my instrument, the half hole plate is almost entirely screwed down. And yes, these fingerings for most instruments should produce the notes in tune, with subtle adjustments (Don't they all?). Don't know whether such a setup would work on a long scrape reed though, but should be worth a try!
Howard
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Author: ohsuzan
Date: 2009-09-10 01:52
My Covey Classic does not have the third octave key, but basically, it doesn't need it.
When I bought this oboe, the seller rhapsodized to me about its excellent high AND low notes. At that point, I was barely advanced enough to know the high note fingerings. But now, four years later, I would agree with her completely. It has just never been a problem.
Maybe, as Howard says, there are passages where a turbo-key is helpful. When I get to that point in my development, I'll let you know.
Susan
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Author: hautboy
Date: 2009-09-10 19:27
I guess I was wondering if there were specific upper octave notes that the 3rd octave key was specifically intended for, but it sounds like it depends on the oboe and personal taste. After some experimentation, I discovered that the 3rd octave key makes my alternate high e fingering sharp. I notice slightly less edge to the G and G sharp (A flat) just above the top line of the staff when using the 3rd octave key. Anything below this G the 3rd octave key doesn't help. The 3rd octave key makes my A (first ledger line above the staff) slightly sharp with very little difference in sound. It doesn't work well for B and C above the staff. I notice barely any difference on the high F (if anything, the 3rd octave key makes it sound just slightly more sharp, which isn't what I want in that register.) No difference in my upper F sharp or G (the highest (practical) notes on the oboe.) So, long story short, I was wondering if my 3rd octave key needs any adjusting. The only practical use I can find for it right now is if I wanted to play G or G sharp just above the staff softer with slightly less edge to the sound. I can't see how it would help facilitate fast passages. I use a semi automatic oboe and it's not thumplate, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not. I've gotten used to adjusting my emouchure and air pressure for certain notes. To me this usually seems easier than getting used to using an extra key.
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Author: drakenoboe
Date: 2009-09-25 16:03
Where you are speaking of using the 3rd octave key isn't where it was designed to be used. I have my 3rd octave key (Fox 800) and I'm able to go to the A above the 4th ledger line with no problem.
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