Woodwind.OrgThe Oboe BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard              
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Previous Message  |  Next Message 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!
Author: johnt 
Date:   2008-07-30 21:06

Hello Clare,

Well, we've all been just where you are. So don't beat yourself up over it. You need to ask your teacher to establish with you what the optimum tie length is for the shaped cane & staples you have. For now, try lengthening the cane on the staple about a millimeter at a time, trial & error. I suspect you are probably tying too short. If you have been trying to tie at 72 mm. or less try 73 or even 74. Instead of jiggling the cane, hit & miss, try simply lifting or pushing the cane away from the side that closes first. The ultimate goal is to have the two sides close at the same time a wrap before the one that puts the thread at the top of the staple but no farther. Make sure that the cane is oriented on the staple. The axes (x & y) of the oval at the top of the staple must match the axes (x & y) of the cane. The way to do this is to sight down the flat part of the mandrel handle. The end of the cane where the fold is should match the planar surface of the mandrel handle. If the cane is off kilter, it needs to be straightened on the tube before proceeding. Then the cane must be straight up, not cocked to either left or right as you look at the reed. All this must be done before you cross the thread over & begin wrapping down towards the cork. Tying is a task which must be mastered before scraping begins. There is no future in trying to scrape a reed which is not closed on both sides all the way from top of staple to tip. It will surely leak. Fishskin or teflon tape are emergency measures to be used as a last resort. If you are not having success after following the above procedures, then I would suspect that the cane you are using is faulty, either not shaped properly or warped to some extent, precluding its closing in a proper manner. Ask your teacher to walk you through the steps on Friday. It is paramount to get the cane positioned first before applying constant tension to the thread.

I use a fist size wooden dowel, 4.25 inches long & 5/8" in diameter. I find the spool too cumbersome. I measure 42" of FF thread, apply beeswax & then lay one end of the thread in the slot of a round headed screw & wrap the thread about a half dozen turns around the screw shank. Then I take the other end & wrap it around the dowel. The screw is in a plank anchored to my reed table by two C clamps. I think you will find it much easier to maintain proper tension using this method. If you wrap your reeds using the spool, much of the tension is lost by the thread burying itself in the wraps on the spool. With the dowel, of course, there is none of this.

Email me <gtowle839@sbcglobal.net> or call me (1-831-484-2316) if you want to discuss or clarify any of the above.

Best,

john

 Reply To Message  |  Avail. Forums  |  Flat View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 

 Topics Author  Date
 beginner reed maker in despair!  new
claire70 2008-07-30 19:59 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
johnt 2008-07-30 21:06 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
oboesquirell 2008-07-30 21:21 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
cjwright 2008-07-31 00:24 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
oboedrew 2008-07-31 00:39 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
Arnoldstang 2008-07-31 00:55 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
vboboe 2008-07-31 05:01 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
claire70 2008-07-31 06:40 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
Arnoldstang 2008-08-01 04:01 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
jhoyla 2008-08-01 07:57 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
vboboe 2008-08-01 17:31 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
Arnoldstang 2008-08-01 19:11 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
vboboe 2008-08-02 02:50 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
Arnoldstang 2008-08-02 21:39 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
jhoyla 2008-08-03 06:54 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
mschmidt 2008-08-03 14:19 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
claire70 2008-08-03 16:38 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
johnt 2008-08-03 18:14 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
mschmidt 2008-08-04 00:25 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
jhoyla 2008-08-04 05:11 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
johnt 2008-08-04 17:34 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
Arnoldstang 2008-08-04 22:47 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
claire70 2008-08-05 06:35 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
vboboe 2008-08-05 02:56 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
mschmidt 2008-08-05 15:10 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
Arnoldstang 2008-08-05 12:54 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
claire70 2008-08-06 06:48 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
vboboe 2008-08-06 18:35 
 Re: beginner reed maker in despair!  new
cjwright 2008-08-07 07:13 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org