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 Joint cork thickness?
Author: John O'Janpa 
Date:   2001-11-03 20:15

Hello All,

My joint corks on my 70 year old Selmer Paris are starting to get a little loose, so I thought I'd buy a sheet or two of cork to replace them when the time comes.

I looked in the Woodind catalogue and found eight thicknesses ranging from 1/64" @$15.20/ft. to 1/4" @$59.00/ft.

Does anyone out there know what the "normal" thickness is for the joint corks on a Selmer of this vintage?

I'd like to narrow it down to say three sheets for $60.00 or so instead of eight sheets for around $200.

Thanks.

John O'Janpa

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: CURT 
Date:   2001-11-04 02:48

Hello,

I would use 1/16 inch cork for this. Use a good contact cement like Weldwood and a nice sharp blade.

you might also try www.MusicMedic.com where you can purchase a set (2) of tenon corks made from the highest quality cork that are already beveled (the cork need to be beveled to for a strong tite bond) and ready to be put on the instrument. I think it's only $5.50 for the 2.

If you need help with the tennen cork, just drop me a line,
Curt@MusicMedic.com

FYI, www.MusicMedic.com also sells repair kits that include these corks, pads, adhesive, pliers, a spring hook, key cork, a leak light, online support, instructions etc...


Curt Altarac
www.MusicMedic.com

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: CURT 
Date:   2001-11-04 02:57

Although I really didn't intend it to be, I think my last post was borderline advertising. As I read it over I can see that my enthusiam might have take over!

Sorry about that!
Curt

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2001-11-04 03:04

That wasn't borderline ...
Please, contact people via email if you want to, not via the BBoard.

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2001-11-04 04:38

Ferree's tools will sell you cork a little cheaper than WW&BW. A 6" sheet should be more than enough for one clarinet -- even if you make a mistake or two. A good set of instructions (from Steve Prescott) on how to do the job is here:

http://www.sneezy.org/clarinet/Equipment/Care/TenonCork.html

A local music store with a repair shop will probably also be willing to sell you the cork. If you take your clarinet when you go to buy it, they will probably tell you exactly what thickness you need as well. The price will be a little higher per inch but they will probably sell you just the amount you need. It may have just been luck but the cork I purchased at one of our local stores was considerably better quality than anything I've gotten from Ferree's or WW&BW. (But the cork from Ferree's and WW&BW is OK.)

Best regards,
jnk

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Mark M 
Date:   2001-11-04 06:42

Well, I'm not sure just how how big a "sheet" of cork is. It just might be more cost effective to take it to a good repair person and have it done rather than have a lot of cork left over. This is something that could be done as you wait with minimal time.

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2001-11-04 14:32

I try to provide MINOR and rapid repair services, mainly for school kids, here in River City, and our local music store has obtained for me several sheets 4X8" [?]of several thicknesses at about $10 each. Works well, I like the old-fashioned Micro Pad and Cork cement. I'm sure our skilled repairers, John Butler and David Spiegelthal, come to mind, and others will have better advice. Don

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: John O'Janpa 
Date:   2001-11-04 23:24

Thanks for the help. I think I'll start with the 1/16". I also found the sneezy post on equipment repairs (which I hadn't read before) helpful.

John O'Janpa

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Peter 
Date:   2001-11-05 02:40

Take Mark's and my advise, take it to a qualifies repair person.

It may be chaeaper in the long run, and if you must do this, do it first with a crappy instrument you don't care about.

Slip with the wrong thing at the wrong time and you will gouge or otherwise damage the wood. It's not worth it.

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2001-11-05 10:52

If you must do it yourself try this....
Measure the tenon socket diameter, subtract the tenon diameter UNDER the cork, multiply it by 1.5, divide by 2, and take it up to the next available cork sheet thickness.
A guide only. It actually depends also on the resilience of the particular piece of cork, whether the socket is wood, plastic or metal, what cork grease is used, how sloppy the fit of the timber is, etc.

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 RE: Joint cork thickness?
Author: Gordon (NZ) 
Date:   2001-11-05 10:53

P.S. I'm glad we work in metrics here!!

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