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Author: rotorobot
Date: 2023-09-29 23:56
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Hello All,
I've posted to this forum some time ago regarding information and value on a bass clarinet that belonged to my grandfather. This forum was very helpful and I ended up selling it to a member here who could appreciate its value and uniqueness.
So, here I am again with one more clarinet.
As I mentioned in my first post here, this (and the bass clarinet) belonged to and was used professionally by my grandfather who played under Toscanini in the NBC Orchestra as well as the original Broadway play "Peter and the Wolf".
I know very little about these instruments but I truly would like it to go to someone who will appreciate and enjoy it as it will, in all likelihood, remain in its case under a bed if I keep it.
I've added a few photos taken quickly with my phone but am happy to provide more upon request. The serial number appears to read "K4864".
As stated above, I'm not qualified to determine condition or value but it seems to be in solid and good shape. I would assume it would need a refurbishment of some kind including new cork.
I would truly appreciate info and valuations as well as welcome any reasonable offers. If interested, I would pack it safely and ship it insured.
Thanks in advance!
Post Edited (2023-09-30 04:06)
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Author: Julian ibiza
Date: 2023-10-02 20:50
Hi rotorobot,
Let me try to help you a bit here.
Other forum members may help you identify your instrument, but they are not permitted to offer speculations regarding its resale value.
There is a designated place for selling called the " Classifieds", which you will find clicking on " Equipment ".
Identifying the instrument from the logo and serial number is likely too little to go by . Post some fotos of the full body sections showing the keywork well and include the length of the assembled instrument but without the mouthpiece.
Once identified, use eBay and the forum's Classifieds section to reasonably establish a resale price. The instruments condition is obviously influential here.
If you can get a tech to look it over, then you can go on to sell it stating its shortcomings as declared by them.
Congratulations on finding a good home for the bass and good luck with this one too.
Julian Griffiths
Tel. 34 696 798 853
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Author: rotorobot
Date: 2023-10-04 06:46
Julian,
Thanks very much for the excellent advice and info. It certainly was not my intent to circumvent forum protocol.
So, with that said, I’ll take more pictures and post here as you suggested. My primary focus is on the vintage, condition and (potential) rarity and desirability of this clarinet. I was sincere in my initial post when I said I’d truly like to see this go to a musician who would love and enjoy this instrument. Beginner, expert or anyone in between. Money is somewhat of a secondary focus as I’m not looking to get top dollar or make a killing. Something tells me that the type of person who would cherish this would not look to take advantage of me anyway.
Again, thanks for the advice and I’ll post pictures. Obviously, at this point, no need for valuation or offers. Once I have a better idea of the history of this clarinet, I’ll post it in the appropriate section.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2023-10-24 01:53
You've got a K series Albert or simple system which is from the 'Radio Improved' era. It's a fairly basic model with a side Eb/Bb key and the side F/C key also closes the top joint ring keys which I've not seen on other simple/Albert systems.
It's not a system used much now, but there are some players who still prefer using Albert/simple system clarinets for trad Jazz as they have larger main action toneholes compared to Boehm systems and are therefore less resistant in the lower register.
Selmer offered their Albert systems in various forms from the basic 13 key instruments through to their 'Improved Albert system' which was loaded up with extra ring keys and other gadgets, just as they offered standard Boehm systems with 17keys and 6 rings through to full Boehms with 20 keys and 7 rings (as well as full Mazzeo and Marchi systems with even more keywork than that).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: tyleman
Date: 2023-11-15 15:47
rotorobot,
There's a market for vintage Selmer Albert clarinets. If you do want to sell it, put it on ebay with lots of photos and as best a description as you can.
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