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 Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: Jacob R 
Date:   2023-07-30 04:17

So, I have been thinking of upgrading from the M13 Lyre Vandoren mouth piece and I have thought of one of the BD mouthpieces, but I was just wondering what mouth pieces would you guys recommend?



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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: Connor1700 
Date:   2023-07-30 04:27

Clark Fobes

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: Ed 
Date:   2023-07-30 04:51

I agree the Fobes mouthpieces are terrific. But, honestly the question is rather odd for a few reasons. You say "upgrade" from the M13Lyre. there are plenty of pro players, some in major jobs who use that mouthpiece. Some people like the BD mouthpiece, some don't. Mouthpieces are very personal. Your best bet would be to try some and see if they work for you.

There are many questions which could make it much easier for someone to answer this question and get you some possibly helpful results- what is your playing experience? what kind of music do you play? what are you unhappy with in your current mouthpiece? what are you looking to change? etc.

To just ask "what would you recommend" with no background info will not get you answers that will be particularly helpful. You might just as well ask- what kind of shoes should I buy and in what size?

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: symphony1010 
Date:   2023-07-30 12:18

I agree with Ed. Changing to another Vandoren mouthpiece is just that - a change, not an upgrade.

Personally I have been surprised at how good the BD mouthpieces are. Around 10 years ago I was dismayed to find inconsistency in the B45 models when I tried to replace one but the BD 5s seem to be a world apart in this regard.

I know that a few of my colleagues have been less than enthused about the sheer number of young players coming through all playing these but I find myself agreeing with them. They are very reed friendly and allow me to make the sound I wish to produce. I have also heard other players making their own sound on them - quite unlike mine so I don't find the BD5 imposing a sound of its own on players. I also have mouthpieces from Walter Grabner and Pillinger but the BD5 always seems to find its way back despite my efforts to play the others.

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: SecondTry 
Date:   2023-07-31 07:00

In addition to the "what's so bad about a Vandoren M13 Lyre mouthpiece," in specific or you behind it already adeptly raised, there is also the reality that this 102 mouthpiece has a considerably smaller tip opening than either of the Black Diamonds you raise, the closer facing one at 113, the larger facing one at 115.5

https://vandoren.fr/en/vandoren-mouthpieces/m13-lyre-serie-13-profile-88-bb-clarinet-mouthpiece/

https://vandoren.fr/en/vandoren-mouthpieces/black-diamond-bd5-bb-clarinet-mouthpiece/

https://vandoren.fr/en/vandoren-mouthpieces/bb-clarinet-mouthpieces-black-diamond-bd4/

As an M15 player, with just slightly more open tip at 103.5 than the M13 Lyre, I trial bought a Black Diamond and found it too open for me.

Sure tip opening is only one of several attributes, along with facing and rail width and mouthpiece internals and materials, but I do consider it the single most important attribute. YMMV.



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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: Jimis4klar 
Date:   2023-07-31 08:02

I highly recommend the older Vandorens engraved logo If you can find. They play better than the current yellow logo ones. Easier response and more resonance.

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: JoeRomano 
Date:   2023-07-31 09:37

If you do try a BD4 or BD5 (I prefer the BD4), you will need a softer reed for a fair comparison. Otherwise, you'll always find the M13 lyre much more free blowing and easy to play. That is, you can't really use the same reed for comparisons.

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: JoeRomano 
Date:   2023-07-31 09:38

And actually Clark Fobes SF mouthpieces are similarly closed and free blowing like the M13 lyre. It wouldn't be a hard switch.

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: Ed 
Date:   2023-07-31 16:34

Clark does make a variety of facings. I agree that a CF+ or even 2L would be an easy transition. His work is excellent. The new 10K blanks are the best he has done

https://www.clarkwfobes.com/pages/mouthpiece-chart

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 Re: Vandoren Mouthpieces Recommendations
Author: oliver sudden 
Date:   2023-07-31 18:49

About 20 years ago I was looking to move on from the M13 I’d been using for some (I think six or seven) years and one of the things I tried was a B40 13.

Basically it was like that scene in Iron Man where he replaces the thing in his chest and goes WAHEY. The M13 had served me well in many respects but I simply needed something else.

By which I’m not saying that more open is better, just that I needed something else and I’m glad I chose something that wasn’t in my comfort zone of the time. Maybe you need something that’s like what you already have but maybe the reason you don’t like what you have is that what you have isn’t for you?

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