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Author: ThePerf2023
Date: 2023-01-19 01:42
All, I was told, on the Clarinet Channel on Facebook, that there is a collection of clarinet music including excerpts from Dvorak's New World, plus the 1812 and Finlandia and much more, published by Boosey & Hawkes. But I have no name for the book. I have spent LOTS of time unsuccessfully on line looking for it, have called the usual suspects (Sheetmusic Plus, etc.) and again, no luck. can anyone help? Thanks so much!
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2023-01-19 02:06
I believe you’re referring to the Temple Savage excerpt books published by Boosey and Hawkes. I suspect they are still in print via the Boosey and Hawkes website
Peter Cigleris
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Author: ThePerf2023
Date: 2023-01-20 04:09
Peter, Thank you so much! But when i went to that link, I could find no T/C for Vol 3 and a very truncated one (only two listings) for Vol 2. Is there a volume with the pieces I am interested in, do you know? I appreciate this help so much!
Best, Michael
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2023-01-20 12:53
All three volumes are there, you just have to use the search function. Regarding the excerpts I’m afraid I couldn’t say.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: JohnP
Date: 2023-01-20 12:59
I have the Temple Savage books. They do not contain any Dvorak or Sibelius. I haven’t checked everything but I would think that for all or nearly all the the excerpts in these books you would be able to get the complete part from IMSLP.
The third volume, entitled Modern Works, includes pieces by Borodin, Glazounov, Rimsky, Kodaly, Strauss and Mahler! The Strauss excerpts are from the operas not the orchestral works which players are more likely to come across.
By the way, Richard Temple Savage was bass clarinetist and librarian at the Royal Opera House and wrote a book about his career.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/4328959-a-voice-from-the-pit
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Author: ThePerf2023
Date: 2023-01-20 19:38
John, Thanks so much, and another door closes. I found Vol 2 on Abe Books for $5 US and ordered it immediately (figuring I can use it no matter what it includes). But still the mystery continues.
I saw a little abt Temple-Savage in "wrong hits" on Google and he looked like quite a person/character.. thanks again!.
Will try IMSLP ... appreciate your help!
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2023-01-22 04:51
JohnP, they were very modern when Temple Savage was performing in the 1930s :-)
You might have better luck with McGinnis set. I have the 9 volumes and there are certainly Sibelius and Dvorak in them
Peter Cigleris
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2023-01-22 08:21
I just started reading this thread and I'm lost. Why are you trying so hard to find an excerpt book? Go to the Petrucci music library (https://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page) and download complete parts gratis for anything you're looking for.
Karl
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Author: JohnP
Date: 2023-01-22 19:23
Peter, I don’t need excerpt books, thanks. I got the Temple Savage books when I was in my teens, 50 years ago. That’s all there was but I didn’t think they were very good even then, so much space is wasted by giving transpositions of A clarinet excerpts, completely unnecessarily. These days excerpt books seem pretty redundant anyway with so much available on IMSLP and the New York Phil archives for example.
John
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2023-01-22 19:39
The caveat is that IMSLP (and I assume NY Phil) have music that is in the Public Domain, at least somewhere. Sometimes a piece is PD in Europe and non-PD in the US. I think NY Phil archives watermarks copyright-protected material to make them difficult to read.
But the excerpt books that exist (as well as the collection of Orchestral Musician CD Rom Library CDs) don't have non-PD music, either.
Karl
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2023-01-23 02:39
Sorry John, my suggestion was aimed at the op re the McGinnis
Peter Cigleris
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Author: ThePerf2023
Date: 2023-01-23 19:46
Good question on the excerpts. I was told on the Clarinet Channel on Facebook that the Dvorak was compressed to about 15 minutes. And that is fine for me. Also, when i have bought "collection books" in the past, there are always pieces of music I am not familiar with that have led me to the entire piece. So, its partially exploratory. But I figured a good chunk of New Worlld plus the entire Finlandia was a good purchase option... Hope this makes sense?
I do most of my practicing (for my lessons) from the DeBeuris Bandman's five volumes (acquired one by one by one over a year plus)
Thanks all again!
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2023-01-23 23:16
ThePerf2023 wrote:
> Good question on the excerpts. I was told on the Clarinet
> Channel on Facebook that the Dvorak was compressed to about 15
> minutes. And that is fine for me.
Huh? I can't guess what this means. The New World Symphony (Dvorak's Symphony #9 in E minor) is a 40+" work. What kind of Readers' Digest version could that be? Whose arrangement is it, I wonder?
Karl
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Author: ThePerf2023
Date: 2023-01-24 00:11
I was really intrigued by it. No repeats would take away what, 7-8 minutes maybe? But what other cuts? I may, as an exercise, look at the timings for the "greatest hits" from the symphony and see what it clocks in at.
Tho u are all convincing me that I shd just give up this idea and get the full clarinet part.
I guess my embrace of the Bandman's series (which includes either full overtures or movements from symphonies, not cut-and-pastes) led me to this.. maybe time to reconsider?
Thx!kdk wrote:
> ThePerf2023 wrote:
>
> > Good question on the excerpts. I was told on the Clarinet
> > Channel on Facebook that the Dvorak was compressed to about
> 15
> > minutes. And that is fine for me.
>
> Huh? I can't guess what this means. The New World Symphony
> (Dvorak's Symphony #9 in E minor) is a 40+" work. What kind of
> Readers' Digest version could that be? Whose arrangement is it,
> I wonder?
>
> Karl
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Author: Micke Isotalo ★2017
Date: 2023-01-24 20:57
I suppose the 15 minutes version contains only excerpts of more or less difficulty.
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