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Author: farabout
Date: 2021-06-11 19:22
Recently acquired Thomann's Eefer CL-18EB, and must admit that I've been awed. Intonation is surprisingly good, within 5 cents in all register (using shorter stock barrel, Vandoren M30 mpc). The horn requires neither barrel/bell replacement, nor extension. It costs 30% less that comparable Amati ACL 362S and is in stock.
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Author: farabout
Date: 2021-06-12 00:27
Nope. This one: https://www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_cl_17eb_eb_clarinet_boehm.htm
Post Edited (2021-06-12 00:28)
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Author: vintschevski
Date: 2021-06-16 08:21
The description of that Rosedale professional E-flat clarinet states that "the Tone Holes are kept in place using professional Blue Steel Springs, which have been built to be hard wearing." Interesting. On wood clarinets the tone holes are usually kept in place by the wood.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2021-06-16 18:12
HAHA! When the springs break, the toneholes drop out.
I remember a flute player telling me I can't simply put a low B footjoint on an existing flute as I will need to get all the toneholes aligned. I questioned her on this and she said that's what her teacher told her. I resisted in telling her she needs to find herself another flute teacher.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Kalashnikirby
Date: 2021-06-16 19:25
Chris,
I studied the pictures thoroughly and think that the Thomann has very differently shaped keys. Just look at the throat a for example.
It is not uncommon for Thomann to work with chinese suppliers and implement their own design. For example, I've now got a french horn (which is a really nice instrument for just 1000€!!) and they clearly added their own "flavour".
Having tried the Gear4music eefer (which I had to send back because of a crack in a barrel), I'm really curious how the Thommann performs. It's probably a steal for the money and beats the Amati easily.
Best regards
Christian
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2021-06-16 20:57
With ALL ringless sockets, no matter how thick the integral rings formed from the same wood may be, cracks should always be expected as the sockets aren't supported once the joints are fitted together and the pressure from within can only go one way which is cracking at the weakest point which is along the line of the grain.
You're best having the ringless sockets all carbon fibre banded as a preventative measure to give them the support they're desperate for.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Micke Isotalo ★2017
Date: 2021-06-16 23:18
Also the l.h. sliver key and bell ring looks different, but even if they would indeed be made at the same factory, what counts is of course how each of them play. Considering the more or less inherent tuning issues with eefers regardless of make, it's good to know how well the Thomann one performed for farabout. Though I'm not playing eefer, it made me interested in trying one out and maybe even buying one! +/- 5 cents through the entire scale is a really, really good result - on any kind of clarinet.
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Author: farabout
Date: 2021-06-18 20:30
The Thomann stock bell inner profile exhibits an aneurysm-like bulge which probably facilitates a proper intonation and obviates the need for further fiddling with (mostly overpriced) extensions and/or custom bells.
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Author: Kalashnikirby
Date: 2021-06-18 22:02
Ah, kind of like an intonation slot (or what they call it @Backun)?
I'm really impressed, as this is definitely a change they made. No such thing on the other chinese eefers.
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Author: farabout
Date: 2021-06-19 00:54
Backun calls it "the voicing groove", which is a very narrow and sharp channel, contrary to Thomann's gradual and larger globular widening.
Post Edited (2021-06-19 01:42)
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