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 Progress in 20s
Author: nserefas 
Date:   2021-04-23 21:57

Hey guys. I have a question. I am 26 and i play the clarinet from 10. Can somenone improve in his 20s or it's too late ?



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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2021-04-24 00:15

I improved gradually over my 19 years as a Band Director (age 23-42). Practicing only 15 minutes daily. Age 24 I got my MM in performance. I noticed over this time every once in a while I felt a little more accomplished. After retiring I upped practicing to an hour and improved quite a bit more. I am back to half hour daily. Not sure what improvement occurs now (age 67).

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2021-04-24 00:54

Consider it a lifetime of improvement

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: OneWatt 
Date:   2021-04-24 01:10

I am in my mid-60s. Notwithstanding my extensive experience with other musical instruments, up until recently (i.e., several months) I'd never touched a clarinet before in my life.

I can now play (12 key scales, diminished, whole tones, various arpeggios, basic etudes, jazz standards, rudimentary improv, favorite transcriptions, ...)

You're only 26?

Gee, if I'd started playing clarinet in my 20s, I'd be a lot younger now.

Apply yourself and enjoy, my friend!

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Israel = Ancient Hebrew for "Wrestles with God"
Klarinet = Ancient Greek for "Struggles with Reeds"

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: Slowoldman 
Date:   2021-04-24 01:31

I was an "OK" high school and college player. Not "music major" caliber.

I didn't play at all from ages 27-61. I started again 9 years ago and now at age 70, I'm still improving (MUCH better than in college!).

I will never be a professional level player, but that's not my goal. With quality practice routines and lessons, YES you certainly can improve significantly, well beyond age 26!!

Go for it!

Steve



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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: Matt74 
Date:   2021-04-24 01:52

Absolutely.

Think about it. You’re only a few years from average college age, which is when most people do the most intensive practicing and have the largest improvement of their lives. Many musicians are still in school at your age.

You are at your max potential right now. When you are small you have developmental advantages, but as a young adult you have intellectual and personal advantages. Since you started when you were 10, you have both. The vast majority of musicians are not prodigies.

The best place to start, if you haven’t done so, is master your scales and arpeggios.

- Matthew Simington


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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2021-04-24 02:20

There is so much to learn about music and about producing it as a performer (at whatever level you're capable of) that you'll never run out of things to learn, and as long as you're learning, you have the capacity to improve.

You can always find ways to improve your approach both to understanding the music you play and to controlling the technical side of your performance. Things may never feel as if they come as naturally as they did ten or fifteen years ago in your pre-teens, but you learn to be more aware and act more deliberately and purposefully. I suspect most of us develop a growing awareness, as we get older but more experienced, of how to problem-solve when faced with some difficulty either in "interpretation" or in execution. Overcoming those difficulties, however we do it, *is* improvement, and it can certainly continue long past the 20s.

Karl

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: nserefas 
Date:   2021-04-24 08:34

Thnx for your answers guys. I m coming from a marching band background and then folk Greece music. So i never practiced the same way a jazz or classical player do. So i m a bit confused about how to practice and what. Never practiced from a method and so on. I just started with Klose and some pther books i fpund online

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: ruben 
Date:   2021-04-24 16:18

I'm improving in my 70s: more than ever. If you like, I'm willing to trade ages with you. ha, ha!

rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com


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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: Ken Lagace 
Date:   2021-04-24 17:33

Think of it this way.
Do you think all of the greatest clarinet players only played their best in their 20's?

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2021-04-24 17:43

I hope we're really improving and not just going deaf. :-)

Karl

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: BethGraham 
Date:   2021-04-24 18:47

kdk wrote:

> I hope we're really improving and not just going deaf. :-)
>
> Karl


That's always a distinct possibility....

Beth, who just had to buy a new metronome so she could hear the beat

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: SunnyDaze 
Date:   2021-04-24 22:12

I'm improving in music a lot more in my 40s then I ever did early on, and for me it's because I now have enough money to buy a really good instrument, and because I can now assert myself with music teachers (I can say "no" and mean it, and I can change teacher without having to justify it). Both of those things have transformed my experience of learning music.

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: Tom H 
Date:   2021-04-24 22:16

You asked about how to practice. My method is have a set routine. Book(s), solos, other stuff, whatever. Think about what you want to do (musically, any phrasing issues, etc.) before you start. Then play the whole time, only stopping to switch books, etc. Thinking about what you want to do during your actual practice time should not be included in your set number of minutes.

The Most Advanced Clarinet Book--Austin Macauley Publishers
tomheimer.ampbk.com/ Amazon, Sheet Music Plus
austinmacauley.com/author/heimer-tom
Boreal Ballad for unaccompanied clarinet--Sheet Music Plus
(902)-225-3276

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: mihalis 
Date:   2021-04-25 03:14

Yasoo Nico. Playing an instrument is a journey.
Learning something new every minute is the way to go.
The best way is to get a few lessons from a PROPER
"clarinet" teacher. Try to avoid all those "klarino" teachers
except if you want to go for the Greek folk style,
but then you just listen to the Greek klarino masters
and play along.
The other way is your Klose method, YouTube, and
follow this site.
And you are not old. I am 76 and still learning, and
having fun.

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: nserefas 
Date:   2021-04-25 12:23

Thank you all for your answers
I m more in the greek style, but i want to have a good technique too and not be just a traditional "klarino" player

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: ruben 
Date:   2021-04-25 12:47

Dear Karl: For me; deaf, not yet. But poor vision. This is what's making me improve. I memorize dozens, hundreds of pieces. This has made a real difference in my playing: has made it more fluid and expressive.

rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com


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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: Jarmo Hyvakko 
Date:   2021-05-01 07:29

I was in my 50's, when I got a chance to play the Francaix concerto. It was a huge effort and took lots of practise. I am sure, that i became a better clarinetist in every aspect through that experience. So my answer is definitely Yes!

Jarmo Hyvakko, Principal Clarinet, Tampere Philharmonic, Finland

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 Re: Progress in 20s
Author: donald 
Date:   2021-05-01 15:31

I practiced for 3 to 5 hours a day between the ages of 16 and 30... these days I'm lucky to get 1 hour in on any given day, but am definitely a better player than I was then. If I could get in those same hours of practise that I used to, I'd be whipping my 20 year old arse!

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