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 LH thumb ring fell off - glue?
Author: crusius 
Date:   2020-03-08 03:26

Hi all,

The metal ring sitting on top of the LH thumb hole (not the key ring, the ring/cylinder that keeps water from getting to the hole) fell off my CSG yesterday. I pressed it back in but I'm not looking forward to that happening again.

My Haynes clarinet manual says nothing about it that I could find - is that press-fit or glued? If glued, does anybody know which glue type? Thanks!

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 Re: LH thumb ring fell off - glue?
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2020-03-08 07:02

Usually glued with shellac. However modern clarinets sometimes use epoxy or something like e6000. Probably best to have a tech fix it though as it’s very easy to make a mess and get glue in the bore.


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 Re: LH thumb ring fell off - glue?
Author: Steven Ocone 2017
Date:   2020-03-08 16:24

I wouldn't use epoxy – it would make it difficult to remove in the future. I don't know any manufacturers that use epoxy. Shellac is good. I usually use beeswax. Some thumb tubes have a curve that matches the curve of the bore so it must be oriented correctly.

Steven Ocone
Ann & Steve's Music

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 Re: LH thumb ring fell off - glue?
Author: crusius 
Date:   2020-03-08 21:12

Thaks all! I may have some shellac lying around - if I don't I'll take it to my tech for a quick fix.

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 Re: LH thumb ring fell off - glue?
Author: RefacerMan 
Date:   2020-03-09 18:54

You can use a thin layer of hot melt cement and "float" the tube in. If you need to remove it later you just carefully heat the tube until the cement is pliable and pull the tube out.

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 Re: LH thumb ring fell off - glue?
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2020-03-10 02:03

Beeswax is surely best. Here's why, it's simply to understand. Wood dries out and expands. Remember the metal rings at the joints and the bells how they become free from the wood so you have to refit them back on using assorted tricks of the trade? So if this metal pops out of the left thumb it's surely related to the wood shrinking. Well with the wax system for the thumb situation the wood is able to expand and contract freely. It probably won't ever pop out again. If we use epoxies and even shellac this I feel is wrong, because if that area wood around the hole ever cracks it "Might," be a difficult repair, if the repairman needs to remove that to fix and seal the crack by pinning.

If shellac gets inside of the bore as well as epoxies good luck removing this. Even the best repairmen will have a very difficult time.

Think out your thoughts carefully before doing repairs yourself. I'm surely not against people doing their own repairs carefully and correctly! I encourage this.

Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces

Yamaha Artist 2015

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