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Author: Reformed
Date: 2019-07-01 17:36
Just wondering if anyone has tried this?
I've lately been using a Selmer lip stick but this needs really constant reapplication on new tenon corks.
I happened to look at the ingredients of Brooks Proofide which meet Jack Brymer's recommendation to use something containing tallow, i.e. ingredients: Tallow, Cod Oil, Paraffin Wax, Beeswax, Citronella Oil. Not the cheapest at ~£10 per 40g tin but should be enough for 10-20 years.
I've also got some Velo Orange Saddle Care, ingredients: Natural Hydrocarbons, Lanolin, Silicone Oils, White Camphor Oils. Seems to be a lot lighter/thinner than the Proofide but a much bigger tub - 4oz/113gm for $12US. Should be enough for a reasonable size repair shop!
Maybe I'll use my Proofide and report back when it's finished, 2035 maybe?
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Author: kdk
Date: 2019-07-01 19:10
I'm interested that Brymer recommended tallow. You can get rendered tallow without the other ingredients in the Proofide. Anthony Gigliotti was, at least when I studied with him in the 1960s and early '70s, using McQueen's Pure Mutton Tallow, which I've gone back to using for the past couple of years.
I tried some beef tallow that I found in a local health products store (marketed as a skin emollient), but I found it was less slippery and tended to become more sticky over time than the mutton tallow. It may have been a difference in the rendering process.
Karl
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2019-07-01 21:43
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The traditional cork grease was stag tallow, „Hirschtalg“ in German. I always use it. Thomann here in Germany offers it as „La tromba“, made in Switzerland and rather expensive. Much cheaper you can get it in car accessories shops as antifreeze for rubber door seals (Foto).
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2019-07-02 01:22
You can always use a decent, tried and tested cork grease that's been on the market for decades instead of making do with something unknown - my recommendation is La Tromba.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2019-07-02 03:21
For many years I made my own cork grease from Tallow, Anhydrous wool fat, and beeswax. Getting the proportions right took some experimenting but once made, a container of this lasted me for years and my tenon corks would last at least 20 years without replacement..
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2019-07-02 07:37
>> The traditional cork grease was stag tallow, „Hirschtalg“ in German. I always use it. Thomann here in Germany offers it as „La tromba“, made in Switzerland and rather expensive. Much cheaper you can get it in car accessories shops as antifreeze for rubber door seals (Foto). <<
So La Tromba is made of animal products? Good to know since I try to avoid that.
I like Alisyn best and also like Doctor Slick (not the synthetic one). Alisyn is as good as or better than any cork grease, animal products or not.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2019-07-02 12:18
Who said anything about La Tromba cork grease being made from animal products? They may make other things that contain animal fats for leather care, but their cork grease to my knowledge has never contained animal products.
http://cfs-kriens.ch/en/woodwind-2.shtml
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2019-07-02 13:17
>> Who said anything about La Tromba cork grease being made from animal products? <<
MichaelW did in his post above:
>> The traditional cork grease was stag tallow, „Hirschtalg“ in German. I always use it. Thomann here in Germany offers it as „La tromba“ <<
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2019-07-02 13:47
Attachment: Deer grease.jpg (80k)
Foto from the Thomann homepage. Btw: They also have "Hirschtalg" from GEWA, a big distributor of foto accessories- much cheaper than La Tromba. I suspect that that might be understood as a sort of brand name only. Anyhow, both products seem to contain animal products.
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Author: Slowoldman
Date: 2019-07-02 14:28
It appears that La Tromba has 2 different formulas (F1 and F2), natural and synthetic, respectively.
https://www.wwbw.com/search?typeAheadSuggestion=true&typeAheadRedirect=true&sB=r&Ntt=La+Tromba
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2019-07-02 15:41
I would hesitate using anything with silicone because I don't know how it would interact with the wood.
Steve Ocone
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