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 Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: iriegnome 
Date:   2019-05-12 03:35

Sorry everyone. Another question about this. I am wanting to buy my daughter a Low C Bass clarinet, but I need a very quick and obvious pointer.
Just by looking at a Bass Clarinet, how do I tell the difference? Other than someone telling me, I need to be able to spot it.
Is the neck different? How so? I know that the lower piece is longer, but I don't always see them pulled apart.
My daughter spots them in a nano second. I need to know what she is seeing (she says she can't explain it).
Thanks everyone for all the help.

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2019-05-12 04:09

There's a pad (key cup) on the bell of low "C" instruments.


whoops.......let me modify that (just saw an image of a low "Eb" horn with a key on the bell). An "Eb" bass will only have three big cups along the right hand side of the bottom joint. "C" bass clarinets will have five or six big cups along the right hand side (it's a longer horn).



.............Paul Aviles



Post Edited (2019-05-12 04:18)

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2019-05-12 04:19

Paul Aviles wrote:

> There's a pad (key cup) on the bell of low "C" instruments.
>

That's true of most low Eb bass clarinets too.

The best way to tell is to look at the bottom of the lower joint (below the right hand pinky keys. If there are only 2-3 large pad cups in a row it is low Eb:

https://www.wwbw.com/Vito-7168-Low-Eb-Bass-Clarinet-467453.wwbw?condition=used

If there are 5-6 pad cups then it is a low C instrument:

https://www.wwbw.com/Yamaha-YCL-622II-Low-C-Professional-Bass-Clarinet-461378.wwbw

Also notice how the lower joint is much longer to accommodate the extended range of the instrument.

-Jdbassplayer

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: Mojo 
Date:   2019-05-12 17:15

When pulled apart, both sections of a low Eb bass clarinet are similar lengths. With a low C, the lower section is significantly longer. Like 8”.

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: Mojo 
Date:   2019-05-12 17:16

Even not pulled apart you can usually see the difference in length of the two section.

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2019-05-12 18:44

I haven't played a C bass for a long time and only for one performance, but, if memory serves, the keys to produce D, Db and C were thumb-controlled keys on the back of the lower section. An Eb bass has no thumb keys on the RH section at all.

Karl

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2019-05-12 19:02

I think the Buffet setup is C and C-sharp for the RH thumb with low D keys for both pinkies.

The old Selmers (like mine) have the key arrangement kdk alluded to.

However, if you cannot tell the difference between a low C and low E-flat instrument, maybe you should enlist the help of a professional before dishing out between $5,000 and $15,000.

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: Jordan Selburn 
Date:   2019-05-12 19:59

rmk54: The Buffet Prestige/1193 has right hand thumb keys for D/C#/C, along with D keys for both pinkies (the right pinkie key is a bit of a reach for me). I *think* the Buffet Tosca bass has thumb keys for Eb/C#/C.

Jordan

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: tucker 2017
Date:   2019-05-12 21:16

GENERALLY a low C will have R hand thumb keys under the thumb rest and there will be 6 spatula keys for the R pinkie. I've got 6 pinkie keys for each hand.

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2019-05-12 21:21

Whatever the arrangement, the point is that the low C requires thumb keys on the back of the RH section. An Eb doesn't.

I agree with rmk54, though, that a good bass clarinet is a large investment and, if you aren't confident in choosing one yourself, you should find help, even at the relatively minimal cost of paying a trusted teacher or player for time to work with you. Does your daughter have a clarinet teacher?

Karl

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: Ed Palanker 2017
Date:   2019-05-19 16:01

The Low C model is substantially longer than the Eb. It really should be obvious if you see them together. As pointed out above, there's several more keys and pads on the low C model including right hand thumb keys. Best bet, get a pro or teacher that plays bass to help pick it out. If it's a used model it could have problems.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Low C vs Low Eb Bass Clarinet
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2019-05-20 02:14

As for cases, a bass to low Eb will either fit in a long narrow case if both body joints remain assembled, or a case around the same size as an alto sax case if all the joints are separated.

Low C bass cases are usually the same size as tenor sax cases to accommodate the length of the lower joint and LH levers.

Chris.

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