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 Re: Selmer 10G -- Which Are the Good Ones
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2018-11-08 02:56

jhamm wrote:

> So my questions are:
> 1) Is it worth trying to refurbish these instruments?

IMO yes, if you can find a good repair tech who will work on them.

> 2) Any recommendations about who should do it?

If Mark won't return your calls (he'd do a great job), Mike Hammer, also in the Philadelphia area, works on mine and is also excellent. Both were very close to the process while the 10Gs were in development.

> 3) Any thoughts about the serial numbers on the instruments?

My Bb is an X and my A is a C series, so my pair surrounds yours. Obviously, I still like them, since I still play them.

> 4) For the most part, they play sharp, except for the throat
> tones, which are flat-would there be a role for trying a new
> barrel? Whose?

If you're still using the AGP, it isn't a 442 model, is it (the numbers 442 would be engraved next o the bottom right corner of the table)? I haven't tried tons of those clarinets, but neither mine nor any of the others I have tried had the problem you're describing. If you were playing a Vandoren Series 13 mouthpiece, I'd suspect that had something to do with it.

Are the barrels original? The 10G barrels were designed with a bigger taper than the standard "Moennig" taper. Mine are considerably wider at the mouthpiece end and slightly tighter than a Moennig at the exit. If you've substituted after-market barrels, it might not be a good taper for the instruments.

If your AGP mouthpiece actually has "AG P" stamped on it, it's fairly early - the not too much later ones only have the letter "P" stamped. If it was an early AG mouthpiece, there's no telling whether its specs are what they later became.

If you haven't played them much since the "half-baked refurbishment" because of the pitch problems, it may be that the bores are out of spec from not having been played and that just playing them regularly over a period of a couple of weeks will bring the original tuning back. If you decide to have them restored and the problem persists, it is possible for a skilled tech to bring the pitches of the throat notes up a little, especially G,G# and A because there are no 12ths to worry about making too sharp. (There isn't any tape in the throat note tone holes that you've forgotten was put in them 30 years ago, is there?)

The scale is something a really skilled tech would need to evaluate.

Karl

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