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Oehler System Clarinets

Author: Kyle Jubenville
Date: 2001-06-16 23:48

Hello, I recently heard of a Oehler system clarinet, and I was wondering about it. I found a few pictures and it looks more like a glorified Oboe rather than a Clarinet. I try and look up information about it but as of yet, my efforts have been fruitless. I was wondering if I could get any information on them. They appear very interesting. Thank you for any imput anyone may be able to give me.

Thanks
Kyle

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: ron b
Date: 2001-06-17 00:25

Hi, Kyle -

I'd describe my (Oehler system) Prueffer as an *enhanced* Albert system clarinet. I don't believe it has a whole lot in commor with its oboe cousins, although they get along just fine with one another. I've yet to hear, in my presence anyway, any argument over who's the most glorifiediest

My player-friendly Oehler has all the keys my Alberts have and then some... :] She has four side trill keys (which are pretty handy sometimes), an alternate Ab/Eb (left pinky), articulated C#/G#. It has six rings on top, no ring on thumb hole but you can sound a nice F# with LH index finger as you do on Boehms. I guess that's about all. It's mechanism is certainly more complicated than an Albert but it fingers pretty much the same and plays very nice. I've had it for many, many years. We've been lots of places together

- ron b -

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: kny
Date: 2001-06-17 02:52

Hi Kyle
I have been looking up information about it too. You can find them in Sneezy if you do a search on "oehler", "german clarinets" or something related.

You can find them in www.ebay.de too, just do a search on "klarinette".

Theres a fingering guide at www.wfg.sneezy.org.

These are some manufacturers who produces them
http://www.f-arthur-uebel.de/index.html
http://www.oe-net.com/hammerschmidt/
http://www.schwenk-und-seggelke.de/deutsch/index.html

Hi ron
How do you do a first line Eb to F thrill on the oehler?

Thanks

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: ron b
Date: 2001-06-17 03:28

Hi, KNY -

Almost all depend on trilling first finger LH.... so, it depends on whether I'm in a good humor or not :]
These are what I use when there's no way to avoid it. Maybe someone else has different or better ones, but these work for me....

The basic most frequently used:
T
X (tr~~~)
| X (side Eb key)
O
== (this represents middle joint)
*************************************************
Second, just as good:
T
X (tr~~~)
X
--- (banana key?) whatever you call that little one
O
==
*************************************************
Alternate, which works pretty well but F# is a little flat :
T
X (tr~~~)
O
X
==
**************************************************
Or, this one but F# is a little sharp :|
T
X
|| X (tr~~~ the side F key)
--- (that little banana key again)
O
==
**************************************************
These probably will work on most Alberts too.

- ron b -

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-06-17 12:49

A range is also produced by Yamaha in Japan. The photos in the catalogue are reminiscient of an oboe only in the more cluttered look of the keywork. I copy this from their catalogue:

"..... These clarinets are exactly like the traditional German clarinets in bodyi design, taper, fingerint, and most importantly, their dark, Germanic sound. The intonation and construction ........, though, are superior to anything that has ever been available before in an Oehler clarinet......"

Yamaha also make Oehler clarinets but with Boehm keywork. I quote again,

"Our German Boehm instruments permit clarinetists accustomed to Boehm fingering to obtain the traditionally Germanic Oehler sound without having to master a new fingering system. The .......models adhere perfectly to Oehler design in all respects except their Boehm fingering."

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: kny
Date: 2001-06-17 13:02

Thanks for the suggestion Ron!
But sadly speaking, the fingering

T
O
X
O
==

for F is too sharp for the Oehler. Its only suitable for the Austrian models if I'm not wrong. Talking about Yamaha. I was hoping to get their Reform Model one day (if I could save up the money in the first place). Does anyone has experience with them?

Kny

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: ron b
Date: 2001-06-17 23:30

Kny -
I'm sure you're correct. I didn't *try* these before I posted.
T, OXO || may be too sharp for a real trill. I think though that on my horn it's 'passable' for a short one. As I mentioned, if at all possible I avoid that (Eb to F) trill at (almost) any cost :]]
I'll claim senility, a sprung spring or a flat pad or - ANYTHING to get out of that Eb to F trill.... whoooieee!
Sometimes, though, you know... *somebody* has to do it

- ron b -

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-06-18 13:53

I believe that Brymer in "Clarinet" discusses these clar fingering systems, likely Lawson also. I've tried playing on turn of the century Albert-Mullers, and experimented with fingerings, as I recall the best first-space F was thumb and first finger with the lower trill key. Keep trying, Don

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RE: Oehler System Clarinets

Author: Uwe Pilz
Date: 2001-06-19 06:16

>Hi ron
>How do you do a first line Eb to F thrill on the oehler?

Play the Eb with the fourth finger nof the left hand and thrill with the F AND Eb thrill keys simultaneously. Gives quite a clear F.

-Uwe

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