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 Re: Selmer 10G -- Which Are the Good Ones
Author: kdk ★2017
Date:   2017-12-26 23:04

Bob Bernardo wrote:

> Yes he
> spent a great deal of time with Tony and some of his students
> who usually played on Selmers. Such as David Shifrin.
>

He must have relented after I was aware. When The 10G came out around 1972, Moennig was furious and I don't think spoke to Gigliotti or did work for him for quite a while. I'm, actually surprised to read that they ever reconciled or that Moennig ever worked on the Selmers. Moennig regarded Gigliotti's taking his Moennig-worked Buffets to Selmer as what we would today call theft of intellectual property. I guess none of Hans's tweaks were patented, so he didn't have any legal recourse. Gigliotti, during the months of development leading up to the release of the 10G, covered the logos on the Selmer prototypes to hide them primarily from Moennig in case Hans was in the audience and might see them.

> I don't know what he did with Selmers, but I'm sure he had a
> special barrel for each model. I don't think he used a rubber
> lining. It just wasn't his style. He was very much old school.
>

I'm not sure, as I've said, that he ever worked on Selmer 10Gs. You were in the shop in the late '70s, so you may be right. I had by then started going to Mark Jacobi and then Mike Hammer to do my repair and maintenance work *because* my 10Gs were unwelcome in Hans's shop. Gigliotti's purpose, besides the monetary one, was to produce a clarinet with Moennig's improvements right off the production line. If Moennig or anyone else had needed to do extensive work on them, it would have defeated the purpose. So what you've written about Moennig and Selmer 10Gs in 1977 onward surprises me.

But then what Ken wrote in the original post to this thread in 2005 about Morgan's involvement was also surprising to me. So I obviously was a little out of the loop toward the end of the 10Gs manufacturing life.

The 10Gs came with rubber-lined barrels. But I'm pretty sure the first rubber inserts I had added to any of my Buffet barrels were done by Hans. I may be wrong. I do remember that Mark Jacobi lined a couple of barrels for me later and, maybe, Mike Hammer.

Karl
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