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 Re: Jupiter JCL710 v. Yamaha YCL255 for beginning clarinet student?
Author: fsb2017 
Date:   2017-08-24 02:37

The Yamaha YCL200ADII was definitely new, not used. We ended up keeping the Yamaha. A little torn about it but time was running out and after more research I really do think the Advantage line from Yamaha are the same as their student models with a different logo and a hard case -- that's what I saw online in forums regarding other instruments as well, that Yamaha's advantage line is the same as the student model except in a hard case. Also the YCL200ADII has the same changes to the bell that the YCL255 made to the YCL250 (whereas the YCL200AD matched the 250 bell). So maybe Yamaha is bothering to manufacture nearly identical student clarinets in separate factories, but it seems to me it would be more cost efficient to produce identical student quality clarinets together and just slap on different logos on at the end. And as I said, my daughter's 200ADII said it was manufactured in Indonesia, which is where many YCL255s appear to be manufactured as well.

My guess is that the 200ADII is not supposed to be sold online, which is why it doesn't have an MSRP and you don't see it for sale new online. I think that also explains why the resale value is less than the YCL255 -- it isn't sold new for $1000 and it's less known than the YCL255 because it lacks an internet presence and isn't marketed for online sales.

I also saw in other forums that my music store wasn't the only one that only sold the Advantage models and stopped selling the equivalent Yamaha student models -- according to my store they understood that it was the same instrument in an upgraded hard case and felt that all students would want the hard case.

In any event, I'm a little torn about the Buffet Prodige, and thanks for your input on it Dan, but I feel ok about the decision. The Yamaha case was much smaller, which I do think will be nicer for her, and the Prodige is a new model that isn't as time-tested for sturdiness/reliability (and I saw that people had complaints about the B12's durability/mechanics). I can't imagine a Yamaha clarinet won't be a pretty good student model that I can resell, and then I have the nicer one for her to use when she's ready.

Thanks everyone!



Post Edited (2017-08-25 00:43)

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