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Author: Ed Lowry
Date: 2015-07-24 03:36
New, and some professionally reconditioned clarinets, have shiny gold filling in the carved out logos on Buffet, Leblanc, Selmer, and other instruments. I've searched the list for how it's done and I've only seen references to gold crayons. But they produce a poor substitute when compared to what I'm hoping to achieve. Can anyone on the list say how it's done? Or does one need to join a special guild to learn the secret?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-07-24 04:46
I use gilt paste/gilt cream to restore logos which is available from craft suppliers to restore picture frames.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Liberon-Gilt-Cream-30ml-Gilding-Cream-/390164941039
Buffet's logos aren't stamped all that deep, so they're not easy to restore whereas Selmers, Yamahas and older Leblancs are either stamped or engraved deeply and are more successful to restore.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: harim0suprem0
Date: 2015-07-24 12:10
How would you metallic foil stamp an already engraved logo? Would you just roll over the entire logo like you would with a crayon?
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Author: harim0suprem0
Date: 2015-07-24 14:14
Nvm, I figured it out. I guess uou need a metal buffet logo die, to stamp over the foil...
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-07-24 19:28
Gold foil has a heat activated adhesive on one side, so it can only be used with heated logo stamps at the point of stamping the logos onto the joints.
If you've got a good eye and a steady hand as well as a very sharp scriber, you can always inscribe shallow logos deeper and then fill them in with gold paste.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2015-07-26 04:24
The Henri Selmer website has a video showing a technician gilding the logo on one of the clarinet joints. Does it by hand, dipping a rag into a container (container not visible in video) and rubbing the gilding material into the logo...100% manual process.
https://www.selmer.fr/fabpict.php?id=115
Ralph
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-07-26 07:12
Selmer's logos are engraved, so they have to be filled in with gold paste afterwards.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: eddiec ★2017
Date: 2015-07-27 01:01
I wonder if something like nail polish would help the restoration job last longer. Perhaps dispensed out of a very fine needle.
The next time I re-do my emblems, I might try heating the crayon some and see if it applies and lasts any better.
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-07-27 23:42
Ok, different question. Chris P., do you think, if one takes your suggestion, that the manufacturer recommended application of Liberon brand Fontenay Base product first is a good idea?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-07-28 03:41
I haven't ever read the manufacturer's recommended application of this stuff and just fill the logos in with it using a trimmed down reed as a spatula/spreader and scraper, leave it for a few hours then tidy it up. It's not rocket science.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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