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Author: fskelley
Date: 2015-07-03 20:38
I have several transcriptions I made several years ago, that I've mentioned here a couple of times, that I'm now willing to share. When I restarted clarinet in 2010 after 38 years off, one of my goals was to be able to play some things I'd admired for decades. And I knew I would be far more motivated to work on them than on clarinet "busy work". So for me, these take the place of Rose Etudes.
I have PDF's but they are all too big, so I have to post separate pages as PNGs. So there are a bunch.
1) Do You Know What it Means to Miss New Orleans... Pete Fountain 1990's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mimWHUWuaG4&index=9&list=FLv_Pd564KyHrOg9y085fJgw
I gleaned a lot from DYKWIM, and almost made some parts of it sound legit a few years ago- haven't worked it seriously since then. It remains my gold standard of how I aspire to sound. No, I don't think anyone will ever mistake me for Pete.
2) Let's Dance... Benny Goodman 1950's I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HYVow1kHQ
I got LD in reasonable shape a few years ago, haven't polished in a while. No, I don't think anyone will mistake me for Benny, either.
3) Shine... Pete Fountain - only about a third done, I never found time to continue (I already got a lot out of the completed part) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipDtG8xV9_4&list=FLv_Pd564KyHrOg9y085fJgw&index=2
Good stuff, and different from the other 2.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
Post Edited (2015-07-03 21:08)
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Author: gkern
Date: 2015-07-03 22:08
Stan - you might be interested in "The Buddy DeFranco Collection" - 15 transcriptions, from Hal Leonard.
Most are too tough for me, but you could probably handle ok. Also some neat stuff in the back of "Benny Goodman's Clarinet Method", again Hal Leonard.
Gary K
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Author: brycon
Date: 2015-07-04 00:30
Stan,
Why aren't you notating these in 4/4 with eighth notes? Benny isn't playing "Let's Dance" in compound meter.
More importantly though, if you want to really get something out of these transcriptions, you need to be playing along with them, absorbing the masters' style. I always learn solos by ear, playing along with the recording, before I begin to notate anything. Then when i do write out the solo, I also transcribe the melody and chords.
You'd get much more out of transcribing something this way--even if it's something super easy, like a simple melody--than by just figuring out what notes someone's playing.
For what it's worth, I also think transcription books are a waste of money.
Post Edited (2015-07-04 00:46)
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2015-07-04 00:58
These were all done in Cakewalk (Sonar), so the triplet notations in 12/8 work easier rather than the standard swing 4/4. I know there are better tools for the job, this is what I knew and had available. And I was writing for myself. I share for whatever interest others might have, they are what they are.
(Edited to add: But I see I did Shine in 4/4 even though lots of triplets- there's often no right answer, especially when the amount of swing or syncopation varies throughout. I remember a sad argument when I was about 14- that would be 1967- with my organ teacher over dotted 8th / 16ths played as triplets, I finally shut up when I realized the poor old dear couldn't follow my objection that 2:1 timing- triplets- was not the same as 3:1 timing- dotted 8/16, LOL. Years later I realize performers float all over between 1:1 and 4:1 and it all works. We are not supposed to be robots.)
What you don't see is that I played along with the recording on MIDI keyboard, then later aligned beats and measures. I was able to transpose the keyboard so I could think in the right key for clarinet during that process, if that makes sense. Especially for the chord structures. Those chord symbols help me think on clarinet.
I've been at this long enough to know what works for me, and to know that's not going to be the same for everyone (or perhaps anyone) else.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
Post Edited (2015-07-14 18:36)
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Author: AndyW
Date: 2015-07-14 16:48
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Hi everyone - first post, though a few of you may know me from SOTW forum.
I've also transcribed this same Pete Fountain version of Shine, from the youtube video. So why not share - I used a technology called "pencil & paper", some of you older cats may have heard of it. so "it is what it is"....it works for me , i had no plans to share til i saw this thread and the nice work Stan has done.
-Andy-
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Author: acermak
Date: 2015-07-18 02:59
I feel I should stand up for Rose. Truthfully I don't find the Rose etudes to be clarinet busy work. I actually enjoy the musical nature of them. Most of them are quite pretty.
Now, the Book 3 Kroepsch etudes, may qualify as busywork, but they've certainly helped to get all the keys under my fingers and to improve my articulation considerably.
I would imagine this just comes down to test and temperament differences, though.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2015-07-18 03:32
I have to apologize for that characterization. What I should have said was, "...what for me would be busy work...".
I am quite sure that in the alternate universes where 100's of clarinet professionals force their students to memorize Fountain and Goodman transcriptions even though many are uninspired by them, "because they are good for you", many of those students wish they could be spending their effort on Rose studies instead.
Stan in Orlando
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2015-07-18 05:39
How about somebody who's "mastered" Rose, but has never tried Goodman, have a hack at LD at about 160 in cut time, and let us know (honestly!) how it goes. There are some awesomely awkward intervals that sound oh so simple, they just aren't. Say... on LD-4 the phrase from measures 112 to 121. I don't think the difficulty is just me, though I guess that's possible. Try not to play any extra notes in between from imprecise fingering.
You might also try Shine-3 measures 52-55, at about 160 or a tad faster.
Stan in Orlando
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