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 Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Philip Caron 
Date:   2015-04-17 03:31

This Sunday evening is the first rehearsal of this summer's local community band season. At the same time Martin Frost is appearing a 40-minute drive away with the Australian Chamber Orchestra, playing the Mozart concerto.

I plan to attend my rehearsal and forgo Frost, though this may be the only chance I'll ever have to hear him in performance. Actually, I've never heard a major clarinetist perform a solo "live".

I'm curious about how others here would decide.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: larryb 
Date:   2015-04-17 03:38

I think Charlie Neidich is subbing for Frost on this tour. Frost hurt his shoulder apparently.

So you won't be forgoing Frost, but neglecting Neidich.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: maxopf 
Date:   2015-04-17 03:45

I went to see their performance in San Francisco last week. Unfortunately Martin Frost had injured his shoulder and couldn't play, but luckily Charles Neidich was able to step in. I was a bit disappointed that I wasn't able to hear Frost, but Neidich did a great job nonetheless, and it was really interesting to hear a basset clarinet performance live. It was my second time hearing a major clarinetist play in-person; the first time was Anthony McGill playing the same piece. Both times have been enlightening experiences.
The Australian Chamber Orchestra is fantastic, by the way.
I personally would skip the rehearsal if it was in order to hear a world-class soloist, but at the same time, the only groups I'm in are high school band and youth orchestra which are a bit more lenient about missing rehearsals.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2015-04-17 03:47

Skip the rehearsal.

Hearing a major player in person will be a revelation.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: RLarm 
Date:   2015-04-17 08:17

EVERYONE in the clarinet section should go and hear Charlie play. In the big picture, your community band will greatly benefit from having the entire section hear a great player like Charlie live. Don't pass up opportunities such as this!

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Guillaume 
Date:   2015-04-17 10:26

Definitely skip the rehearsal! Hearing Charles Neidich will be amazing! I still remember hearing Romain Guyot, who came in Clermont-Ferrand in 98 ? 99 ? and played Brahms and Mozart quintets.
I even remember he brought two very different clarinets: a Buffet Festival for Brahms, and a Buffet Elite for Mozart. The Elite was a very special instrument, but it fits Mozart very well. It's like I always have the sound of this performance in my head.

Guillaume
http://www.guillaume-jouis.com

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: greenslater 
Date:   2015-04-17 13:22

Unfortunately I've never heard Neidich but the ACO are fantastic. Worth hearing even if there wasn't a clarinet concerto on the program.

One of my favourite CDs is the Frost and ACO recording 'Dances to a Black Pipe' released on the BIS label. No Mozart included but has the Copland, Lutoslawski preludes, Brahms Hungarian dances but the most amazing arrangements of Klezmer Dances by his brother Goran Frost. Highly recommended.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Roys_toys 
Date:   2015-04-17 14:14

Another vote for seeing the greats.
saw Martin Frost playing the Mz Concerto a couple of months back at Londons Wigmore Hall, a great venue for smaller works. And previously Michael Collins, Alan Hacker, Julian Bliss. Difficult to say anything could be better in any of these. But there again a long ago Jack Brymer also lives in my head, as does seeing Pavarotti and Louis Armstrong.
As close to perfection as I am likely to experience.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Dan Oberlin 2017
Date:   2015-04-17 16:53

Well, I made the same choice as Philip, missing the chance to drive 40 miles to hear an exceptional musician (Frost or Neidich) to attend band rehearsal. We make a commitment at the beginning of the season to attend the rehearsals, last Tuesday was the third of only four for our next concert, there were some intonation details to be worked out in an exposed passage with the Anguish horn, etc. Sad, though.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2015-04-17 18:32

Screw the rehearsal

http://www.MyTempoMusic.com

http://www.skypeclarinetlessons.com/about.html

Backun/Legere/BG/Silverstein

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: MartyMagnini 
Date:   2015-04-17 19:59

I'm the director of a fairly large (90) and accomplished community band. I would be thrilled if any of my players (or an entire section, for that matter) would skip a rehearsal to go hear a world class player in person. The benefits/enthusiasm they would bring back to the band would be worth it, to me.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2015-04-17 23:05

To avoid this difficult choice in the future, it might make sense to suggest that before scheduling rehearsal times, the band director might check concert schedules and *encourage* musicians to go hear the greats -- maybe as a group. Here in the Washington, D.C. area, the Washington Post publishes these schedules way in advance.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: TomS 
Date:   2015-04-18 00:08

Recordings are a pale approximation to the real McCoy. You have to hear it live to really appreciate why some players are famous.

Tom

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Pastor Rob 
Date:   2015-04-18 02:23

Our ensemble skipped a session to hear Han Kim. It was so worth it. I also saw Andy Miles a few years ago. Incredible!t

Pastor Rob Oetman
Leblanc LL (today)

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2015-04-18 15:34

And an Audience position pales compared to sitting next to a player.

Nuances

http://www.MyTempoMusic.com

http://www.skypeclarinetlessons.com/about.html

Backun/Legere/BG/Silverstein

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: TomS 
Date:   2015-04-19 17:18

Ditto on "close up and personal" ...

I was the recording engineer for many years with the local flagship orchestra ... I always made a point to eavesdrop, as closely and secretly as possible, warm-ups of great guest musicians ... ear/brain opening. Many were friendly and would endure my conversation, too ...

Tom

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: William 
Date:   2015-04-19 20:12

Anytime you can hear the Mozart played "live" is well worth the effort, regardless of the celebrity of the player. Frost is out and Neidich is in???? It's a no-brainer for me. You can rehearse next week, but Mozart will be over.......

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Philip Caron 
Date:   2015-04-19 23:41

Frost and Neidich share the same lofty level in my humble esteem, so thread title aside, the question is the same.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: D Dow 
Date:   2015-04-25 02:09

Neidich is an excellent player and plays with great freedom....Frost and he do like to go over the top a bit and that is a good trait in the hum drum world of classical music.

David Dow

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: duxburyclarinetguy 
Date:   2015-04-26 00:22

I would go hear the live performance as well. I can still hear Yona Ettlinger performing the Mozart Quintet while I was in high school, it was transformative!

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: na1965 
Date:   2019-05-30 04:11

Unfortunately history sometimes repeats itself. My daughter, a college aged clarinet enthusiast, and I had been planning for 6 months to travel to Minnesota for a father-daughter weekend to hear Martin Frost perform in St. Paul. Apparently he injured his shoulder and all his appearances have been cancelled.
Sang Yoon Kim will be substituting in some of the scheduled performances.
We wish Mr. Frost a speedy recovery.

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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2019-05-30 05:43

Is it strange that it is another shoulder injury? After all, he's not a quarter back.


For the record, the ONLY thing that would keep me from a live performance of this calibre would be a performance.....in which I played a key role.




..................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Forgoing Martin Frost
Author: Green Henry 
Date:   2019-06-03 00:49

When I was young and used to play rugby, we all agreed (when International matches were on the tv, clashing with our own fixtures) that it's always better to play than to watch. Still my view.

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