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 Re: Think your ligature matters?
Author: fskelley 
Date:   2014-04-23 09:05

I had a rather odd experience with ligatures, while I was fighting trying to make a sustainable Legere playing scheme (where I would have a constant supply of good playing reeds, that I would replace or renew- how?- on a predictable schedule). I never got there, and abandoned Legere (in fairness root cause may well have been something in my playing that I may or may not have corrected since then).

Anyway, I started with a Rovner ligature per Tom's videos, and also drifted among the other ligatures that came with my various used clarinets. An old silver Buffet Crampon France was a frequent winner. A Leblanc ligature that I think was original (along with the mouthpiece) with my 1950's Dynamic 2, played well on occasion. I worked with Vandoren Optimum (lots of experimenting with different inserts, extras to hold the slippery Legeres etc etc), whatever the Vandoren string model is (hard to get), many iterations of my own string, and also the Bois which is basically the o-ring idea. The reason I kept experimenting was that- it seemed that every change I made, at least temporarily felt like an improvement. But ultimately ligatures were not the solution to my issues. And I learned the hard way to be ultra skeptical about any change that seems like a winner. It's made me afraid to try anything in a store or at a show- I have to live with it a while to really know.

So now that I'm semi-settled on Vandoren blue reeds (wouldn't it be funny if they were really blue?), balanced by ATG (still hoping for something more playable out of the box), with some beeswax on the back [right]- I'm back (for at least past 6-12 months) to a basic Rovner ligature. Every now and then I swap with that old Crampon silver just to see if it changes anything, and it doesn't. Bottom line for me was that the more control I have on everything else, the less the ligature matters, within limits. At least that's what I think today.

Stan in Orlando

EWI 4000S with modifications

Post Edited (2014-04-23 09:12)

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