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Author: RLarm
Date: 2014-03-20 07:43
When Vandoren first started promoting their CL line of mouthpieces Paul Meyer was prominently featured as using these new models. I recently ordered his new recordings of the Spohr concerti and it listed him as playing on a set of prototype Buffet Divine clarinets and a Vandoren 5RV!!!!! Interesting to say the least. Personally, I do not like the CL mouthpieces but I bought a CL4. I find that the M30s offer a much warmer sound but I'm sure that some of you out there will beg to differ. Doesn't that make things more interesting? By the way, I much rather try out new mouthpieces and spend about a $100 dollars than $500 to $750 on some of the more "exotic" models that are now on the market.
Regarding the recording, I found his version of the Spohr #1 to be much more flamboyant and soloistic than Andreas Ottensamer's. I realize that Meyer's vibrato (from his lessons w/Benny Goodman?) nor his sound will be everybody's cup of tea. However, I feel his recording of all four offer more excitement than Leister's. He takes a lot more risks than Andreas and Leister. He is able to generate excitement in some of Spohr's more prosaic moments. One can tell that Meyer is a soloist not an orchestral player.(???????) (Please forgive me if this totally offends any of you. It is only a generalization.) ALOHA
RLARM (ROYAL HAWAIIAN BAND WOODWIND SUPERVISOR)
rlarm@hotmail.com
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-03-20 19:26
I am feeling better and better about having gravitated toward and then firmly settled on a 2RV = 5RV. At least I have a lot of good company.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: Alexis
Date: 2014-03-21 05:11
He plays incredibly...have just listened to some of his 1st concerto.
However, just because you can double-tongue everything, doesn't mean you should. Particularly when the melody is in another part!
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-03-23 19:14
Having listened only to #1, I'd say he plays pretty much as you might imagine he would from his publicity photos.
You can make a case that Spohr is a 'forgotten master'; but if he is, I doubt this recording will rehabilitate him.
Tony
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-03-24 00:17
donald wrote:
>> This will be fun.>>
THAT, if I may say so, betrays the level on which you interact with music.
Shame on you.
Tony
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Author: donald
Date: 2014-03-24 02:17
I'm sorry Mr Pay, but it's nothing at all to do with the way I interact with music.
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-03-24 04:11
Well, you look forward to 'having fun', and being amused, when -- I suppose -- other people interact with what I say.
But, why do you suppose I said what I did? It's because I'm serious about what we do when we perform music. And if YOU were serious about music, you'd understand that.
See, it's not a silly circus show for your entertainment.
Tony
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Author: RLarm
Date: 2014-03-25 04:45
Next time I post something I will try to limit it to just one subject. I didn't realize my comment on Paul Meyer using a Vandoren 5RV instead of the CL series mouthpiece would have more people commenting on the Spohr Concert recording. i I cited it primarily because it lists the equipment that he used for the recording. (I like it when companies such as BIS list what the performers are playing on.) I wanted to bring up the question of players actually using different equipment than what they might be "publicly" endorsing at the time.
Mr. Pay, I was introduced to the Spohr Concerto No. 2 with your recording on Argo(?) which I still really love. When I first saw the music my very first clarinet teacher said it wasn't a very good piece, and it was obviously written by a violinist because it had too many notes. He was quite dismissive of it so I never thought much about it until I heard your recording. Since that time, I've noticed that a lot of people are playing and recording it. Bravo to you! (By the way I just love your recording with the late Thomas Friedli of the Krommer Concerti. The two of you sound like you are having a great deal of fun performing these "happy" and tuneful works. It's one of my all-time favorite clarinet recordings.)
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2014-03-25 05:41
RLarm,
Not sure why you are apologizing to Tony Pay. They guy, however brilliant as a clarinet intellectual and a performer, is a p***k (as we say here in the New World).
I tend to side with The Donald.
I am not a big fan of Paul Meyer's playing. But then again, I am not a big fan of Tony Pay's playing either.
And I own recordings of both performers.
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2014-03-27 13:50
I fear that 'we in the New World' is another case of 'him and his mouse'.
Tony
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-03-27 15:37
Is it too late to say that I really like the CL4? You can get a very warm sound and fast response albeit a slightly more compact sound. The intonation characteristics are ideal for the R13. I just don't understand the fascination many of us have with the "low" pitch mouthpieces.
..........Paul Aviles
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