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 R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: GBK 
Date:   2012-05-25 03:37

All of my R13 Buffets from 96,000 and below have a solid piece of cork under the entire throat G# key.

However, all my R13's from 154,000 and higher have already changed over to a G# key with metal nib and small cork bumper (the style still used today)

Thus - somewhere between 96,000 and 154,000 the G# key cork bumper design was permanently changed.

Just curious - if you have an R13 between the serial numbers mentioned above perhaps we can determine approximately when the throat G# cork bumper design was first changed.

...GBK

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 Re: R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2012-05-25 03:57

I have a 160,000 and like yours it has changed.

I do remember playing one of these older horns with the full cork and the placement of the key was very low when playing the G# so a lot of players added cork to the top of the G# key, so it was a lot easier to play a run using the G# key. My guess is before the early 70's this was changed in a good way. When playing these earier versions that left hand index finger would stand up like a poll! Mainly people with longer fingers. Thus the need to build up and add a cork on top of this G# key.

Nice topic.

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 Re: R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: Jeff Chan 
Date:   2012-05-25 05:00

I have a R13 A, s/n 1089XX with the metal nib.

Jeff

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 Re: R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2012-05-26 03:12

1041xx -solid piece of cork (also a flat spring on the C#/G# key. I wonder if that changed to a needle spring about the same time.



Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2012-05-26 04:31

1119xx Bb also Metal nib. :)

So must be between 104xxx and 111xxx. But I really can't tell in the dim lighting about my C#/G#...

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 Re: R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2012-05-26 13:42

Actually we know it's between 104100 and 108999, which, according to the Buffet serial number lookup puts it between October 30, 1968 and July 18, 1969.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: R13 throat G# key changeover
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2012-05-27 00:25

I wonder if the Bb G# key was done before the A clarinet? For some reason I think the A clarinet wasn't adjusted for a year or 3 after the Bb.

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