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Author: Rob Tierney
Date: 2012-02-02 19:46
I've got a sophomore in high school who has been selected to play bass clarinet in the all-state orchestra. They are playing 4 movements from Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet Suite 1 & 2. As you probably know, all the parts are in bass clef and my kid is totally clueless on how to play off of that and we've only got 3 weeks until the performance.
I was able to find Bb treble clef transposed parts for the 2nd suite online, but not the 1st suite. I was wondering if you might have them, it would save me A LOT of time in writing it out myself. I only need 2 movements - "No. 5 Masques" & "No. 7 Tybald's Parish". If you could fax those parts to 620-367-2571 or e-mail me pdfs to tierneyr@usd411.org THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!!
Or, if you have another idea of where I could find the parts? Before I set-up for a marathon session with Finale.. which I haven't used in years!
Thanks!
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2012-02-02 20:09
Great time to learn a bit of bass clef! It's not hard, just bite the bullet and do it. 3 weeks is plenty of time.
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Author: davyd
Date: 2012-02-03 03:24
I'm curious as to where you found the treble clef parts. That would be a good bookmark to share the next time someone needs help with this piece.
This might be a good time for the kid to learn Finale; HS-age kids can pick up these things quickly when they want to. What's to be produced doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be good enough for the occaision.
Or the parts could even be handwritten, once the kid knows to write everything down a fifth and adjust accidentals accordingly (not trivial where Prokofiev is concerned). I can't imagine that these two movements are all that lengthy.
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2012-02-03 12:14
If he writes everything down a fifth, he is going to be in trouble...
The part is For B-flat Bass (unless there is some A, I don't remember), so no transposition is necessary.
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Author: davyd
Date: 2012-02-03 13:34
I sit corrected; it's down a sixth. Example: E3 in bass clef (3rd space) becomes E4 in treble clef (bottom line). I was thinking the original was in concert pitch.
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2012-02-03 15:00
Davyd,
I think you need to rethink your transposition. To play E3 in bass clef you finger E4 in the treble clef. There is then actually no transposing needed because your playing the exact pitches as you see it on the page.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: davyd
Date: 2012-02-03 20:41
Peter, I'm talking about the thought process involved in rewriting the part in treble clef by hand, if that's what turns out to be necessary. Certainly those who can read bass clef don't have do anything special, but the OP's kid doesn't read bass clef. Yes, he/she should ultimately learn to read bass clef (I have, and do), but that may not be the best solution on short notice.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2012-02-03 21:54
That's the publisher, they did one suite in treble clef, sounding an octave lower than written, French style, and the other in bass clef, sounding in the octave it's written, German style. Remember, when it's in the bass clef and then goes to the treble clef for a while, the treble clef part has to be played an octave higher so it sounds in the octave it's written. Read my website bass clarinet pages for the explanation. ESP eddiesclarinet.
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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2012-02-04 14:15
>I'm curious as to where you found the treble clef parts. That would be a good >bookmark to share the next time someone needs help with this piece.
http://www.orchestralibrary.com/specialparts.html
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