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 charles neidich set up
Author: clarinete09 
Date:   2012-01-06 19:00

Does anyone know what clarinet brand Charles Neidich plays on?

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: brycon 
Date:   2012-01-06 19:44

His current clarinets:

http://www.schwenk-und-seggelke.de/englisch/klarinetten.php



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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: donald 
Date:   2012-01-06 23:35

Charles Neidich has previously played Buffet clarinets (S1 at one stage, R13 when I had coaching from him in 1996/7/8). Lately I have seen/heard him using the S+S Clarinets that are based on the Clarinets used by Muehlfeld (you can find these as period instruments by "Georg Ottensteiner" on the website in above post).
While these instruments have been primarily designed for use in "period performance" of the Brahms works, they are actually historically accurate for many other works from the 19th/early 20th century, and could be used for more modern pieces if you wished (and were fluent with the German system fingering). I don't know if Neidich has been using these clarinets for more than the Brahms repertoire.
dn



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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: brycon 
Date:   2012-01-07 00:12

He has an Ottensteiner "replica," with which he has played the Brahms works. Pretty sure his primary clarinets are Schwenk and Seggelke French-keyed clarinets (boxwood and blackwood). I think the bores of the French-keyed instruments are similar to the R13.



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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: Lam 
Date:   2012-01-07 03:12

and also there are roller in C-Eb keys and also in left hand B-C# key, like in the german system, but apart from them its a French keywork like Buffet.

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: donald 
Date:   2012-01-07 05:16

No rollers from E/B to F#/C#. The bore of their French key/bore instruments (they also offer French keys with a German bore) are indeed similar to R13. I actually have a barrel from one of their A clarinets that works on my Buffet Festival, though the tuning is better with my other custom barrels.
The S+S website has an "interactive key calculator" for those curious about the keywork- overall it's a pretty good website.
dn

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: Clarinetero 
Date:   2012-01-07 07:25

Hi,

The clarinets Charles Neidich uses are Schuwenk and Seggelke made in Boxwood. As he told in a masterclass I took with him, he asked for a period clarinet based on the Muehlfeld and he felt so in love with this clarinets that he asked them to make him a Boehm system instrument.

I remember that class especially because Neidich accidentally forgot part of Bb clarinet and he took a part of Ayako's Bb clarinet to perform in a concert. The most impressive thing is that the clarinet was in tune and had a very special color in the sound.

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: Lam 
Date:   2012-01-07 12:57

sorry that I confuse with his boxwood Ottensteiner one, which has rollers and also Eb and F levers for the left hand little finger.



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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2012-01-07 17:07

Clarinet porn!

I'm keeping the S&S splash page open just to see the photos go by --too fast to study the details of the keywork...

Bob Phillips

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2012-01-07 21:39

Are S+S instruments available in North America?

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: SteveG_CT 
Date:   2012-01-08 15:27

Ralph Katz wrote:

> Are S+S instruments available in North America?
Yes, but you will need to order from them directly. See this thread for reference: http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=321298&t=321271

Be prepared to get sticker shock.

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: SamuelChan 
Date:   2012-01-11 11:01

From a YouTube video I see him playing the German system clarinet of S&S, or am I seeing wrongly? I clearly saw the 'cup' key at the lower joint.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=SG#/watch?v=mKYH4vZzqDk

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2012-01-11 21:14

The S&S Boehm system models, at least the few I have worked on, offer some of the additional vent key options that are normally only on the German system clarinets. Perhaps that's what you are seeing.



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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: SamuelChan 
Date:   2012-01-11 21:54

Oh so he probably paid extra for that to be installed. Thanks!

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 Re: charles neidich set up
Author: donald 
Date:   2012-01-11 22:35

Some of the You Tube clips show CN playing his Ottensteiner "replica" clarinets, perhaps this is what you saw, that link you posted doesn't take me to a Neidich clip so i can't tell.
S+S make...
- French system (with a few extra key options)
- French system with German bore (similar to Reform Boehm and with LOTS of extra key options)
- various German system and period reproductions.
As i posted earlier, you can check out the keywork available by looking at the "interactive key calculator" on their website. There are also some very good close up photographs of the keywork for the French key/German bore instruments.
I have heard via a friend that he sometimes uses his Ottensteiner clarinets for repertoire other than Brahms, but i have no evidence of this.
dn

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