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Author: rudysalad
Date: 2011-12-27 19:08
Gents, I just purchased a new e-11 buffet clarinet. I have always been told that stock ligatures are ok, but if I could, I should invest in a new one.
I am contemplating a new Vandoren Lig. But I came across an interesting ring concept.
Every product swears its the best. So Im asking players.
Would you recommend the Bois Excellente Ligature?
Is it really that better than others or not?
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-12-27 23:07
I've used it. It works fine, but because of it's design, you can't really keep the reed firmly on there and the reed (for me) would slip a little side to side while playing. Only once in a while, but once is enough for me.
I guess depending on how much you jammed it on there, or how light your embouchure is, it'd be fine, but if you're a beginner (which my forum psychic senses tell me you are still learning much), I'd recommend a more secure ligature.
Cheap and reliable, I'd say get a rovner dark. Although if you don't want to spend ANY money, the stock ligature is fine to learn on. Some play it the rest of their career. It's the MOUTHPIECE that matters. If you haven't done so yet, do a search on "beginner mouthpiece".
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2011-12-28 00:19
I second the Rovner Dark ligature. A fine ligature at a very reasonable price. I rotate around on various ligatures and I'm currently using my Rovner Dark.
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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2011-12-28 02:32
Third Rovner Dark!
I use the shorter facing Fobes Cicero 13, and the Rovner tames the wildest harmonic beast.
I used a BG Super revelation with success for a while with a Morgan Rm10.
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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2011-12-28 17:04
Bois ligatures work just fine once you get it properly set which may take some jamming. Otherwise the reed does tend to slip sideways. I've used them for a few years and had no troubles but do check out the Rovner.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-12-28 18:40
Another ligature with a similar "simple ring" concept is the Pomarico. However it IS adjustable with a screw.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Trevor M
Date: 2011-12-28 18:53
Wow, I've never seen anything like that. Does somebody you know get a good sound with one of these? It just doesn't seem like it would offer enough peace-of-mind for me.
(I'd fourth the Rovner 'dark' for its bang-to-buck ratio, although I use a BG 'Tradition' now. All these companies need to fire the people who name the ligatures.)
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Author: clarinete09
Date: 2011-12-28 23:51
What about the Luyben ligature? I think is very good! And also really really cheap!
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Author: oca
Date: 2011-12-29 08:27
If you want something other than the rovner dark, I recommend the BG Revelation Brass. It is a hybrid ligature that gives you a dark tone and the purely vertical forces on it do not "squish" the reed in anyway at all compared to the rovner dark which relies on the the tightening if radius. The difference is minute.
The Brass version is the hardest and cheapest of all other BG Revelations; sound also travels faster through brass than silver or gold (not that there is adetectable difference)
Make sure these ligatures don't stick to the sides of the mouthpiece.
Good luck! You may want to try as ligature preference is subjective.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-12-29 13:01
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What about the Luyben ligature? I think is very good! And also really really cheap! I was going to suggest this, but I've broken two luybens through overtightening. I figured if someone was starting out, the rovner you can tighten the ____ out of it and it's not going to break. And it's one screw. It's just really easy to put on and off and works. THe luyben takes more care, and I wouldn't expect someone starting out to take that much care or even KNOW how much care to take. Same reason I wouldn't suggest a gigliotti ligature even though I think they are also really good and cheap.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2011-12-29 14:16
I can't break my Luyben no matter how hard I tighten mine. Maybe I got a good one? I can see how you can snap a Gigliotti ligature though; I was too afraid to tighten it when I tried my teacher's because I thought they would snap.
But a Rovner Dark is not a bad choice either. I too have started using mine more frequently after rotating through my ligatures.
And just curious, why are we recommending the Rovner Dark as opposed to the Rovner Light or any of the other models Rovner has?
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2011-12-29 18:35
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And just curious, why are we recommending the Rovner Dark as opposed to the Rovner Light or any of the other models Rovner has? I'm recommending it cause I've tried it, own it, and know it works. I haven't tried the rovner light. And I feel the rovner mkIII is probably not necessary for a beginner, and the rovner versa is more money than you need to spend to learn.
Alexi <- a big fan of Rovner's ligs.
US Army Japan Band
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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2011-12-29 23:48
In response to "Why Rovner Dark":
There's a whole heap of good ligatures out there, probably because there's a lot of different opinions on how the clarinet should sound. I think if you're buying from a reputable brand, you're getting a good product. I don't much care for the ligatures that change shape. For my taste, I prefer having one good ligature, and sticking with it, so the other pieces would just be wasted. When I played a Rovner Dark, it did everything I needed it to, so I haven't tried anything else. I think the MKIII looks interesting, but I have no need to look any further.
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