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 Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2011-09-23 21:01

I'm playing the Auric trio the Sunday evening for clarinet, oboe and bassoon, a great combination and we have a very compatible group. I'd like to find a few more VERY GOOD trios for that combination. I know there's a lot of junk out there so I'm looking for recommendations for "good" trios for both the players and the audience. Let me have your recommendations if you have any. Please include the publisher if you know it. Thanks. ESP eddiesclarinet.com

Please note this request was 5 years ago.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: srattle 
Date:   2011-09-23 22:46

Ummm, I don't know stuff specifically written for that combo. But I just tonight played, and remembered how wonderful the Mozart Basset Horn trios are (kv229). There should be a nice arrangement of that for trio d'anch.
Also the Beethoven grand trio for two oboes and english horn. Also incredible piece and there must be a good version.
I also really love the Villa Lobos trio

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: normancult 
Date:   2011-09-23 22:50

The villa lobos is a nice option. I believe it is published by eschig (paris).

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: DAVE 
Date:   2011-09-23 23:22

Villa Lobos is great, and so is the Francaix. I'm pretty sure there is a nice one by Honneger too.

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: ohsuzan 
Date:   2011-09-23 23:48

Oboe, clarinet, and bassoon? Cinq pieces by Jacques Ibert
is WONDERFUL. Also, the middle movement from Aires Tropicales (published as a quintet, but the middle movement is a trio).

This is one of my favorite instrumental combos, and if the clarinetist in my current WW5 weren't such a difficult person, (good player, difficult personality), We'd already be performing these.

Susan

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: genekeyes 2017
Date:   2011-09-24 04:46

Bozza/Suite Breve en Trio
Ibert/5 pieces
Milhaud/Pastorale
Vivaldi/Concerto in Gm

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2011-09-24 14:14

Thank you all. I have the Francaix, played it a few years ago and played the Villa Lobes many years back. I also remembered some of the others mentioned, just forgot because I don't own them. Once again, thanks. ESP

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: clariniano 
Date:   2011-09-24 17:34

My husband created an arrangement of a Beethoven Minuet in F(it's one that is Level 5 Piano in the RCM program) that's for flute, clarinet, and bassoon, but the flute part would work on oboe too, I played it at a music camp a number of years ago. I have the music in pdf.

Meri

Please check out my website at: http://donmillsmusicstudio.weebly.com and my blog at: http://clariniano.wordpress.com

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: davyd 
Date:   2011-09-25 02:19

"there's a lot of junk out there"

Such as what specifically? What are some pieces to avoid, and why?

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2011-09-25 15:58

Look for a copy of James Gillespie's The Reed Trio: An annotated Bibliography. It appears to be out-of-print but a library might have it:

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: William 
Date:   2011-09-25 16:08

Alec Wilder wrote a wonderful suite of trios for a student group here in Madison back in the 1960s when he was a resident composer on the UW-Madison campus.

English composer, Andrew Wilson, wrote for that instrument combination in his "Suite of Sweets", a very delightful group of trios that have audience appeal.



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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2011-09-25 18:10

I was in a reed trio for 6 years and pretty much covered all the major repertoire with all the concert societies in the UK.

I premiered the Wilson that William mentioned. There are also two trios by English composer Graham Williams which I premiered.

The more traditional repertoire is as follows

Auric
Poulenc
Ibert
Canteloube
Milhaud
Villa Lobos
Pierne brothers (wrote one each)
Francaix
Waltham (the only true English trio written in the early 20C)
The Mozart basset horn divertimenti (which imo are poor arrangements)
Beethoven Trio (originally for two oboes and Cor) and the Theme and Varitions (for the same original combo) which has been arranged for flt, clt and fg. This works well for oboe if a little high.
Some Bach three part inventions which work well

There are more but as I'm doing this off the top of my head I've probably forgotten them.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Liquorice 
Date:   2011-09-25 21:30

Sandor Veress- Sonatina per oboe, clarinet and bassoon. Very cool piece.

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2011-09-25 21:43

I forgot the Veress, we played this a lot and it is truly a cool piece

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2011-09-25 22:21

Ed -

Don't scorn the Haydn London Trios. Even though they're simple, they're VERY GOOD music, full of Haydn's charm and wit.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2011-09-26 22:00

¿¿Poulenc??

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: donald 
Date:   2011-09-27 10:45

Um isn't there a trio by... scratching head here... Feroud? I remember a fabulous 1st mvt, other movements not quite as good...
dn

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2011-09-27 11:28

I also forgot the Martinu trio (needs C clt)

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: concertmaster3 
Date:   2011-09-27 11:47

It could be interesting to look at the trios done by 4 of the members of Les Six.
Durey, Auric, Poulenc and Milhaud. Tailleferre also wrote a quartet for this trio + piano that might be of interest too.

I don't know if I just overlooked Honneger's piece when I was looking in the catalog or not, but I didn't write this down in his wind chamber music collection that I gathered earlier this year.

Good luck!

Ron Ford
Woodwind Specialist
Performer/Teacher/Arranger
http://www.RonFordMusic.com

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2011-09-27 18:33

Also forgot the Gordon Jacob Trio, very nice work.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: donald 
Date:   2011-09-27 19:14

Pierre-Octave Ferroud
1900-1936 (36)
Born: January 6, 1900
Died: August 17, 1936
French

Trio for oboe, clarinet, bassoon.... first mvt really good, not sure about others

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: srattle 
Date:   2011-09-27 23:37

Oh don't forget the bach organ trio sonatas.
I just performed BWV 525, which works really nicely!

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: elmo lewis 
Date:   2011-09-28 01:01

I've never heard of a reed trio by Poulenc and it isn't listed in James Gillespie's bibliography. Can someone give more info?

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2011-09-28 15:20

elmo -

I suspect Peter may be thinking of the wonderful Poulenc trio for oboe, bassoon and piano.

Has anyone played the Sauget? http://imslp.org/wiki/Trio_for_Oboe,_Clarinet,_and_Bassoon_%28Sauguet,_Henri%29

I like the Milhaud Suite d'apres Corrette.

Editions de l'Oiseau Lyre publishes a number of trios http://www.oiseaulyre.com/windmus.html

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: ohsuzan 
Date:   2011-09-28 15:29

Thanks for the link, Ken. It looks very . . . playable.

Susan

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2011-09-28 19:16

I'm not mistaken Ken, there is a trio by Poulenc. I played it several times back in late 2009 at several music clubs. The Sauget is interesting but a little too "modern" for music club audiences. When I was in the Canteloube Trio we decided against it.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2011-09-29 00:53

Peter -

Any place I can find the Poulenc?

Thanks.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2011-09-29 12:09

I have played these:
Erzsebet Szonyi: Five Old Dances (Boosey & Hawkes Z. 5831)
Paul Hoffer: Theme with Variations (Sikorski 273)

Also check here:
https://catalyst.library.jhu.edu/?q=%22Woodwind+trios+(Bassoon%2C+clarinet%2C+oboe)%22+%22Scores+and+parts%22&search_field=subject

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2011-09-29 15:24

I agree, there is no reed trio by Poulenc. ESP

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: hinotehud 2017
Date:   2011-09-29 21:31

Caspar Kummer (1795-1870) wrote an excellent trio Op. 32 published by Amadeus for flute, clarinet and bassoon. Perhaps the flute part could be played on oboe. I can't recall how high it goes but it sounds good with a violin playing the part, so I don't think it goes too high.

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2011-09-29 21:47

There is a Trio by Poulenc, even if it is an arrangement. I clearly remember the rather interesting middle section, the fugue was a little atonal. It was classic A-B-A. I haven't played any of this rep since my last concert early 2010 but I will find out the name.

You should also have a go at the Bozza too

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Carcamalisio 
Date:   2016-04-27 22:55

Where can I find a copy of James Gillespie's The Reed Trio: An annotated Bibliography? I need this, but i can't find anywhere in Spain... Is this in PDF or something?

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: bradfordlloyd 
Date:   2016-04-28 00:24

I second the recommendation for Ibert's Cinq Pieces en Trio. I just played it with a wonderful group and also played Milhaud's Suite d'Apres Corrette.

Both pieces were wonderful and fun to prepare (challenging too....but not too much)

Btw, we played through Tailleferre's Sonate Champetre (Cl, Bsn, Ob with piano) and we decided not to do it. There was nothing wrong with it, but it just didn't strike a chord with any of us. Maybe we will try it again sometime soon.

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Floydinoz 
Date:   2016-04-28 06:01

Hi Eddie,
Be sure to include Erwin Schulhoff's Divertissement on our list.
It's excellent
Floyd

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Jarmo Hyvakko 
Date:   2016-04-28 15:16

Pierre Max Dubois has a nice one. And don't forget Henri Tomasi's concert champetre!

Jarmo Hyvakko, Principal Clarinet, Tampere Philharmonic, Finland

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2016-05-02 20:00

I posted my orignal post on this 5 years ago.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Reed trio recommendations
Author: JonTheReeds 
Date:   2016-05-05 01:12

Ed Palanker wrote:

> I posted my orignal post on this 5 years ago.
>

>
> Post Edited (2016-05-02 20:01)

So what trios did you try out?

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