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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2011-09-22 10:48
I have three concerts in Shanghai, China, over the next week and have two questions for anyone who knows Shanghai.
1) Is there any early clarinet activity in Shanghai? (I don't mean people practising early in the morning.)
2) Does anyone know a woodwind store in Shanghai where I can buy a low C plastic bass clarinet for cheap (my Buffet 1193 is too good for some of the modern music I play).
Thanks,
Simon
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Author: The Doctor ★2017
Date: 2011-09-22 12:09
If you can hang around until October 11-14 the Music China convention is in Shanghai which is like a super NAMM for the Asian Rim.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod'
www.chedevillemp.com
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Author: pzh97
Date: 2011-09-22 13:51
JINLING EAST ROAD(金陵东路) is a good place to buy clarinet.
Our SHANGHAI PEOPLE ALL GO TO JINLING EAST ROAD.YOU CAN GEI THERE
BUY UNDERGROUND TO “大世界”STATION.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-09-22 18:22
I don't speak or read Mandarin, so maybe the transliteration "JINGLING" has nothing to do with Chinese opera, but I'm curious about whether the name of this street has anything to do with music. Is it an area with a lot of concert venues or music stores?
I ask because the type of role generally transliterated into the Roman alphabet as a "jing" role in Beijing opera and traditional theater is a grotesque villain. The early 20th century theater and film actor Hong Jingling took this stage name because he specialized in these weird characters, with heavy prosthetic makeup and over-the-top acting. But then there's the capitol city of Beijing and there's also the jinghu, one of the opera's traditional stringed instruments (two strings, played with a bow), not villainous at all, as far as I know. Of course the jinghu might sound villainous if badly-played.
It's easy to be mistaken about words that might look alike in the Roman alphabet but not sound much alike in Mandarin, so maybe these various jings belong to different contexts that have nothing to do with each other, but does anyone here happen to know for sure?
Lelia
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Author: TianL
Date: 2011-09-22 22:12
It's actually "Jinling", not "Jingling"
Jinling, in the old days, is the name for Nanjing. It used to be the Chinese capital until in the recent years when the Yuan dynasty (ruled by Mongolians) moved the capital from Nanjing (literally "South Capital") to Beijing ("North Capital").
I guess I should say relatively recent years... it's still 800 years ago!
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Author: pzh97
Date: 2011-09-23 12:17
You learn the Chinese history very good.But you made two mistakes.I am sorry to hear that.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-09-23 17:26
TianL wrote,
>>It's actually "Jinling", not "Jingling"
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Oops! Thank you for the correction. So much for all my musical theorizing!
David Spiegelthal wrote,
>Lelia, you think too much. Dangerous. >
Point taken .... ![[yeah]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley17.gif) Or, alternatively, it could mean I think too much in the wrong way but not enough in the right way. Or, on the third hand ....
Summoning the spirit of Emily Litella: "Nev-ver mind!"
Did I set off the Pedantry Alarm yet?
Lelia
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Author: TianL
Date: 2011-09-23 21:13
Alex, Shanghai is more like a business oriented city. If you want to go somewhere pretty, you should to go Hangzhou (pretty close to Shanghai) and see the West Lake (Xi Hu). It's one of the most famous places in China and has a lot of good food.
In Good image, type "Hangzhou Xihu" or "Hangzhou Lake" and you will see it:)
But if you just want good places to eat, then it's probably not worth the trip.. Shanghai has more than enough good restaurants. Go to the not-so-big ones. The really big ones are probably expensive.
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Author: EEBaum
Date: 2011-09-23 22:40
Thanks...
Hangzhou sounds and looks great... I'll try to get there if I'm in the area again. For this trip, though, I only have most of a day before the convention and the day after, so a side trip isn't really an option. I'd have scheduled a longer stay to explore if I'd have friends from the area or if I spoke the language, but for now I'll be staying in the city.
For next month, I'm mostly interested in finding some cool spots that aren't immediately obvious to the passing business traveler.
-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com
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Author: Simon Aldrich
Date: 2011-09-24 10:57
pzh97 - Thanks for the recommendation of East Jinling Rd. I went there today. Unfortunately there were no cheap plastic bass clarinets. There were a lot of cheap clarinets however. My favourite was the Selm clarinet, written with the same letter style as Selmer. They even had "Selm USA" and "Selm Paris".
I went with a guitarist who pointed out all the fake Gibsons, Martins and Epiphones. The problem with all the fake stuff is that you never know what is real and what is fake. Are the Apple computers in the Apple store real (after that *whole* Apple store in Kunming was found to be fake)? Are the watches in the Rolex and Cartier stores real or as fake as the ones five feet outside the store on the street?
One thing that is not fake are the spicy dumplings. Every dumpling stand had a lineup at least 20 feet long. One dumpling restaurant that came highly recommended by the Chinese had a lineup at least 200 people long! The only stall that had a lineup of fewer than 20 people was one that sold roast sparrows. Take my word for it - sparrows do not have a lot of meat on them. But they are easier to get down than the guinea pig I had in Peru, which was similar to biting into the flesh of your arm.
But I digress. Back to the cheap instruments, the violist in my ensemble might get a cheap ($100) violin for when he has to double on violin in contemporary music.
For those coming to Shanghai for Music China in October, I recommend highly the Lonely Planet Shanghai City Guide. I do not recommend roast sparrow however.
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Author: pzh97
Date: 2011-09-24 14:09
"It used to be the Chinese capital until in the recent years when the Yuan dynasty (ruled by Mongolians) moved the capital from Nanjing (literally "South Capital") to Beijing ("North Capital")."
SORRY,NOT YUAN dynasty,IT IS MING DYNASTY.（明成祖朱棣迁都）.
"it's still 800 years ago!".sorry,you made a mistake.It is SONG DYNASTY(宋朝).
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Author: TianL
Date: 2011-09-25 06:12
this is totally not clarinet related.. but.. it's hard to resist to argue:
well yuan dynasty did move capital to Beijing.. but i guess Ming fist moved it back to Nanjing and then permanently moved it to Beijing.
As for which one is 800 years ago, it is the beginning of Yuan, at 1271, which was about the end of Song, is 800 years ago.
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