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Author: John Peacock
Date: 2011-09-20 09:58
Karl (kdk):
Your criticism is entirely correct: I am making a common supposition about harmonic balance influencing sound, which needs to be tested. I'm pretty sure from personal experience that it is a relevant factor: I have often heard what sounded like a beautiful clarinet tone on my alarm-clock radio, only to track down a CD and find things were much less nice sounding in reality. I think it's clear that the limited treble on such a radio does have the effect of making tone warmer.
But that's not all there is to it. I've played around with digital editing of recordings of my own playing, and whatever I do to alter the amplitude of different harmonics, it still sounds like me (alas). My conjecture, and it is only that, is that amplitude of the various harmonics matters - but so does phase. If you inspect the waveform corresponding to sin[t]+sin[2t], it's very different to sin[t]+cos[2t]. I've never done any tests to see if the ear can tell the difference between these two cases (in which the harmonic balance is identical), but it shouldn't be hard to do. I think this thread is going to provoke some experiments of this sort. Equally, it shouldn't be hard to extract a bit of Frost and Bliss from the examples above and do some more detailed analysis. Watch this space.
But on Frost vs Bliss, do you really prefer the Bliss tone as you get it in this clip? Agreed, sometimes you might want to sound like that deliberately in order to get through a thick texture (e.g. Shostakovich). But in the Mozart adagio, there's no trouble being heard. So in that case, surely one would prefer to sound as Frost does?
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Re: Bright Vs Dark-really, please explain this to me |
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