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 Re: Bright Vs Dark-really, please explain this to me
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2011-09-19 17:52

TianL wrote:

> take a reed that's 1/2 more than the strength you used to play.
> play it, and then thin both side of the reed by a lot and play
> it again. The latter will give you a brighter sound.

Except that most players who play very heavy reeds say it's because the sound is darker. And that players who use very light reeds get a brighter sound.

The bottom line is that, except within a very small circle of colleagues or musical acquaintances who have all through repeated shared listening experiences come to an agreement among themselves about what "bright" and "dark" mean, the terms aren't useful in any practical sense. A conductor who wants to get a meaningful result from his/her directions needs to be able to verbalize the desired change more clearly or he/she simply causes a lot of blind experimenting until people stumble on what he/she wants by accident.

By the way, there's a third descriptor, "dull," that Gigliotti always suggested people confused with "dark." And for him, many of the world's best known "dark" clarinet tones would have qualified rather as "dull." It's not so much what we as individuals hear, it's how we define the terms to begin with. Most "classical" players wouldn't ever admit to sounding deliberately and consistently "bright," (certainly none I've ever met) though they might "brighten" their sound for a specific passage.

As has already been pointed out, this discussion (and you can find others in the archives both here and on the Klarinet listserve) ultimately shows only how diverse people's personal definitions are.

Karl

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