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Author: Kontra
Date: 2011-04-03 21:42
Did they ever come in a wood grain finish? Like made to look like wood? I ask because a friend of mine, back in middle school, she begged her dad for a wood clarinet and he finally bought her one off of that auction site and she was showing it off to everyone and I asked her what kind of Buffet it was and she said B12... So I asked her to hand it to me and I checked and it was definitely not wood. It looked like it but it wasnt... so I broke the news to her and in a snobbish attitude she disagreed. So she showed it off to the band director who broke the news to her again and she was sad. My question is, did Buffet ever make B12s to look wooden or maybe her father had bought a fake off the auction site? I remember her telling me that the dad said the listing said "Wood Buffet Clarinet."
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-04-03 22:19
I used to work there on and off between 1987 and 1998!
B12s were gloss finish until the mid to late '90s when the brushed finish ones came in.
There was a small period when they didn't have lower bell rings. The brushed finish ones have plastic socket and bell rings.
The early B12s are gloss finish with a fixed metal thumbrest.
Then they had a plastic fixed thumbrest and some were without the bell ring.
Then the brushed finish ones came in and nylon pins were fitted in the LH levers.
Then brushed finish with silver plated keys.
The cases changed as well - early ones had plastic cases with a bulge for the bell with two metal clasps, a blue lining and a rubber handle that usually split.
The next case had a curved top and the single plastic safety clasp that usually broke (the small connecting piece in the lid usually dropped out) and had a burgundy lining. Then the lining was changed from burgundy to greeny-grey.
Then the plastic case with the flat top and two plastic safety clasps came in which didn't break.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2011-04-03 22:22)
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2011-04-16 20:36
I played on an Armstrong clarinet until I graduated from high school. I, too, thought it was wood just becasue it looked like it (it wasn't).
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-04-16 20:50
I think Armstrong/Artley clarinets were among the first plastic clarinets to have a wood grain finish.
Bundy altos, basses and contras had a matt finish but it was more sandblast/frosted than a scratched wood grain effect (likewise with the Rudall Carte Romilly plastic clarinets that were B&H Regents but with a matt finish).
Where it gets funny is with Buffet and Yamaha wooden clarinets as they have a scratched finish whereas Selmers, Leblancs, B&H and others have a highly polished finish.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-04-17 01:28
Silver plated keys on a shiny black plastic clarinet (or oboe) do look classy - almost like jet and silver art deco artifacts.
There were some plastic-bodied Howarth S1 clarinets made and they looked pretty special with their high gloss finish and silver plated keywork, but there was the usual snobbery towards them being plastic which was unfounded as they probably cost more to make than wooden ones (and the wooden ones had a high gloss polished finish too).
Give me silver anyday - I think gold plated keywork looks tacky.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2011-04-17 06:57
One of my Clarinets is a Schreiber 6010s which I assume is the German equivalent of a Buffet 11. It is a shiny black plastic Clarinet with silver plated keys.
It not only looks good but it actually plays quite well with a good mouthpiece such as a Vandoran B40 Lyra. It's one of my 'knock-about' outdoor Clarinets.
Skyfacer
Post Edited (2011-04-17 06:58)
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Author: Red Chair
Date: 2011-04-29 15:59
Your Schreiber 6010s is in all reality an E11. After Buffet bought back the rights to the E11 (and now we have the E11 France) the left over parts that Schreiber had were made under the Schreiber brand name and then sold as various models. Schreiber also offered various retailers the opportunity to have their own clarinets made. They were happy to make the clarinet and then stamp it with what ever name was needed. They just needed to get rid of the stock. I don't know of anyone who took them up on the offer, but I saw the offer with my own eyes.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2011-04-29 23:49
It's not an E11 equivalent. The Schreiber 6010s is plastic. The Schreiber-made E11s are wood. The 6025s appears to be Schreiber's E11 equivalent.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2011-04-30 04:51
The one difference between the Schreiber 6010s and the E11 apparently is the 'old fashioned' wrap around speaker key. Looks rather sexy. Also because of this style of speaker key the actual pin hole (speaker hole) is at a slightly different position and now the interior tube obstruction is noticeably shorter.
Oh another thing, the 6010s has an interesting feature at the place where the bore enters the bell. It suddenly fans out just about 3/4 inch before entering the bell. Up to that point the bore seem to be cylindral. This is a feature of a German Clarinet (Oehler ect ) I had one of those once.
Anyway it's one of my two knock-about plastic Clarinets and I"m very impressed with the quality of the finish.
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