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 classical sonata
Author: charlie_star_uk 
Date:   2006-01-05 17:47

hi! i am after a classical sonata for clarinet for a competition.... does anyone know any apart from danzi or lefevre? or can anyone recommend a lefevre?
thank you!!
charlie

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2006-01-05 18:59

Since you list Danzi and Lefevre, I assume by "classical" you mean from the classical period rather than the more generic use of the term. Two names that come to mind are Vanhal (Wanhal) and Hoffmeister. Vanhal appears to have written at least three. At least one of these was originally for C clarinet and has been published in two versions for Bb clarinet - one (in C) has the clarinet part transposed and the other (in Bb) has the piano part transposed. Hoffmeister wrote several. Csaba Klenyan and Allessandro Carbonare both came out relatively recently with recordings of all of them. One calls them "Duos" and the other "Sonaten" but they are the same works.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: donald 
Date:   2006-01-05 23:44

there is a shortage of really good classical sonata that can compete with the repertoire of other instruments (in a competition situation)
one suggestion- play a transcription
for example- the Mozart Violin Sonata K 378 in B flat major works very well with very few changes made to the original violin part. You can either do this yourself, or buy the transcription from Luyben (i believe it is available as part of a book that contains transcriptions of the solo part from several other sonatas, and you need to source the piano part separately)
Charles Neidich has recorded this sonata, it works really well.
i also have a transcription of KV 380 (in E flat), this is more virtuostic, but less mozartian (it's based on the quartet arrangement of the sonata)
hope that this was helpful
donald

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: charlie_star_uk 
Date:   2006-01-06 08:16

that' s a good idea.... yes it is difficult to find a good one when youare competing against violinists and pianists!!
i will check them all out. thank you! if its good enough for niedich to record.....

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: mnorswor 
Date:   2006-01-06 18:33

There are also the 2 Sonatas of François Devienne. I like the second quite a bit more than the first, but both are very nice and both are certainly classical. His dates are 1759-1803. The second frequently shows up on competition lists as well. Both are originally for clarinet so there's no need for a transcription.

I think both of these pieces are far and away better than any Danzi, Hoffmeister or Vanhal. When I think of these 3, I think of them as pre-classical composers, not classical in the sense of Mozart of Haydn.

So, check out the Devienne is my recommendation.  :)

--Michael Norsworthy
http://www.michaelnorsworthy.com

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: charlie_star_uk 
Date:   2006-01-06 20:16

oh! that sounds good... i have played a trio by devienne that i really liked. yes, the other composers don't seem developed enough somehow...
thank you.

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: David Peacham 
Date:   2006-01-07 10:07

I'd never heard of Devienne. Looked him up on Google and found on http://www.flutepage.de/englisch/flutists/devienne.shtml that he "Died probably of overwork".

Forgive my cynicism, but is composing REALLY hard enough work to kill anyone? Or did he have a parallel career as a salt-miner?

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: RodRubber 
Date:   2006-01-07 23:58

Mnorswow -
Have you ever played that Devienne Sonata with Harpsichord? Or heard of anyone doing so. I too like that piece. It is a simple, sort of charming work!
Best Regards



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 Re: classical sonata
Author: charlie_star_uk 
Date:   2006-01-08 10:58

was it written for harpsichord?

charlie

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: ErikFranklin 
Date:   2010-08-15 02:15

Charlie,

I'm pretty sure it was written for a piano. The title of the piece is something like Sonate pour Clarinette et Piano-forte, which leads me to believe that it was not a harpsichord. I bet it would sound fantastic with a fortepiano, though!

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: Simon Aldrich 
Date:   2010-08-16 00:10

You might want to check if the competition specifies dates for the classical period. While 1820 is an accepted date for the end of the classical period, if the competition sets it later you might be able to do a Weber cl/pno piece or the Burgmuller duo op. 15. Back in the bona fide classical period, there are other cl/pno pieces:
Franz Krommer Romance (op. 21, No. 3)
Anton Eberl Grande Sonate
François-Adrien Boieldieu Sonata
Charles Boscha Grande Sonate in Eb op. 52

Simon

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: Simon Aldrich 
Date:   2010-08-16 02:52

I forgot to mention the two Ferdinand Ries Sonatas for Clarinet and Piano:
Op. 29 and Op. 169 "Sentimentale".

Simon

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2010-08-16 10:08

Simon Aldrich wrote:

>> You might want to check if the competition specifies dates for the classical period.>>

Hi Simon,

I think she's probably done the competition by now:-)

Tony

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: Simon Aldrich 
Date:   2010-08-16 14:40

Tony wrote: "I think she's probably done the competition by now:-)"

Yikes! Four years late into the discussion....
Thanks for pointing that out.
Bitten by the resurrected thread once again! :)

You may be stuck in Siena but I am stuck in the sleepy region of Charlevoix, Quebec, practicing a recently-received classical clarinet by day, playing contemporary clarinet by night.

All the best,
Simon

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 Re: classical sonata
Author: justme 
Date:   2010-08-16 15:35

Simon:-,

If you're playing day and night, could be you need to get some sleep... [whoa]



Justme





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