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Author: jnswickard
Date: 2010-07-06 14:32
Has anyone heard of a Conn 424N that was made in Germany? Is it the same horn or a different one just titled Conn 424N?
Thanks,
Jack
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2010-07-07 03:11
I see no one has chimed in. I have not ever seen or heard of one but that does not mean it doesn't exist.
John B
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Author: GLHopkins
Date: 2010-07-07 04:37
I spent an hour looking up Conn clarinets this evening trying to find out more about the 444N. For what it's worth I didn't run across anything about a German made 424N.
I did find some info that said Artie Shaw played a Conn 444N. I had thought he was a Selmer man.
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Author: jnswickard
Date: 2010-07-07 14:01
John and GL,
Thanks for the answers so far. If I get this thing I will let you know about the made in germany issue.
Thanks,
Jack
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Author: BobD
Date: 2010-07-07 16:00
I still question what clarinet(s) Artie played......
Bob Draznik
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Author: jnswickard
Date: 2010-07-07 18:00
Well I have purchased the little beastie--I will report on the "made in germany" aspect once I actually go over the horn???
Jack
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Author: jnswickard
Date: 2010-07-20 12:20
German 424N Pictures--
Obviously I can not get the pics from the email I received to load here??? I promise not to give up my day job.
Jack
Post Edited (2010-07-20 14:11)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-07-20 16:37
Conn pics:
I'll try again.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2010-07-20 16:46)
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Author: jnswickard
Date: 2010-07-20 16:50
I bow before Chris for he has surely done that which I could not. From now on we shall know him as Cris the mighty and triumphant one. Seriously Chris thank you very much.
At any rate you now have the pictures of this Made in Germany Conn 424N.
If any one can figure this out let me know.
Jack
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-07-20 16:51
I worked on a Conn bass of this era - it had very similar characteristics in the keywork and fittings - the straps on the middle socket ring, locked point screws and the speaker key had that bend in it. I'd hazard a guess it is made in the US and not Germany, though am willing to be put right on that.
I like the ramps on the middle socket ring to prevent the bridge key getting bent during assembly http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/download.html?1,2261/Conn424012.JPG which raises the linkage on the top joint until both pieces are lined up - though the RH ring key foot has been bent!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2010-07-20 16:58)
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2010-07-20 20:11
Have I missed something? I think I've read all the posts. What is the basis for believing this clarinet was made in Germany in the first place? Is it marked "Made in Germany" anywhere (in English or German)? If so, is the same piece also marked "CONN." And how do you know this is a 424N. Is the model name marked anywhere on the instrument? The only logo I can sort of make out is on the bell. I think it might be useful to have this information (the markings, if any, on each section of the clarinet) on record.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2010-07-20 20:41
Looks like a lot of Conn's I've seen of this era including the set screws for the pivots. I second JNK's question. Is it marked "made in Germany" anywhere on the instrument?
John B
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Author: jnswickard
Date: 2010-07-20 22:47
I am informed by Sean Prather who has the horn in his possession, and took all the pictures, that the horn is marked with Serial # 424N 22206 on both the upper and lower joint and additionally marked made in germany on the lower joint just above the serial number.
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