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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2010-06-27 23:15
I played Weber's 2nd concerto (1st movement only) in high school solo festival, on bass clarinet. In 1974.
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2010-06-27 23:38
Dance steps: A+
Intonation: B- especially throat and altissimo notes.
Good object lesson to show that bass clarinet is not the technical slug that so many people think it is!
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-06-28 14:46
Plays it pretty well. Amazing no but very good yes. It's quite amazing what people can do with the bass clarinet these days.
Please, Please don't call it a song, it's a Concerto, a mov't from a concerto, a concert piece but it's not a SONG. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: William
Date: 2010-06-28 15:36
A rose, by any other name, is still a rose :>)
I might also add, good bass clarineting....but not "amazing". Years ago, 1970's, I heard a bass clarinetist audition for the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra playing Weber's "Concertino"--very well, btw..........
[Nielson, anyone???]
Post Edited (2010-06-28 16:48)
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-06-28 17:04
True William a rose is a rose but you have to know that a song is a song and it's not a concerto. A car is not a truck, a trailer is not a house, a boat is not a plane and a concerto or sonata is not a "song". ESP
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-06-28 18:20
Hank, you're right on. Burt B wrote great songs but I don't know of a single concerto or sonata of his. What a great "song" writer. ESP
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2010-06-28 18:58
Here we go again talking about lot of things and those that don't matter at all but not about the topic. I think he did a great job and this song(concerto movment,concerto piece and who cares what to call it) suites the bass clarinet very well.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2010-06-29 15:03
OK, for Iceland clarinet, back on topic: I humbly submit that anything that can be played on soprano clarinet can be played on bass clarinet as well. This should not be a huge surprise.
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2010-06-29 16:08
I do like this performance, and I do like his tone. I'm having issues with my own bass clarion tone right now; I feel I ought to listen to more stuff like this for ideas. He seems to blend the tone between the registers very well, to my ear.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2010-06-29 17:25
Iceland, listen to a recording by John Bruce Yeh called "Dialogues with My Shadow". It has some good examples of technically demanding bass clarinet playing, performed beautifully.
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Author: donald
Date: 2010-06-29 22:02
I'm with DS on this- Andrew Uren (who apart from being a Bass Clarinet virtuoso is the organiser of the NZ clarinet society) has many times amazed audiences here in NZ with performances of incredibly difficult and complex repertoire, so they are well adjusted to the concept that the Bass Clarinet can meet the technical challenge... He has also performed the Weber concertino on Bass clarinet with an orchestra.
Heinz-Peter Lindhalm and Petra Stump have at least twice visited Iceland for performances, so Iceland Clarinet should have had the opportunity to hear virtuoso Bass Clarinet playing in action.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2010-06-29 22:06
I sure enjoyed it!
Eddie P, have you ever messed with this piece? As with most bass clarinets they get a bit restricted in the upper register. I was wondering if you have a special mouthpiece or a type of neck that opens up the sound a bit?
His low register was very clean sounding.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
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Author: justme
Date: 2010-06-29 23:38
Howdy Stefan,Dave,Ed, all...
Thanks for your comments.
The reason that I think that this is amazing is that I've never heard this played on the bass clarinet and I love the tone this guy is putting out.
Mostly what I've heard on the bass clarinet is just "bass parts" or bass clarinets doing duets, trios, quartets, etc; With other bass clarinets or combos.
As far as bass clarinet solos go, what I've heard have been things such as: Bozza Ballada, concertino in d minor, shubert the bee, as well as some bass clarinets used in Jazz and Klez.
I like the sound of the lower register on sop clarinet ( chalumeau) the best as far as the soprano clarinet is concerned and as of late ( in the last 6 months or more) I took a slight interest in the bass clarinet, as well as the alto and basset horn. So I've done quite a bit of listening around the net to see if the bass clarinet "was for me."
What I found was although I think that it has a great range, it's a bit too low in pitch for me as I seem to prefer something a bit more on the "tenor side." This video of an alto clarinet being played perhaps displays the tone that I prefer in the clarinet world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_IA8K7xK8g
So, I was surprised to hear what I thought was a great tone ( at least to me) on the bass clarinet that I hadn't heard before, even though I've done a lot of listening around. It may be the acoustics, recording, the piece, or a combination of the aforementioned items, but I really liked the tone.
I found myself looking to see if they hadn't made a mistake and posted someone playing an alto clarinet instead, looking for the neck, etc. LOL
But low and behold it was a bass clarinet. I then thought perhaps it was of a much different bore or much brighter mouthpiece than I've experienced listening to, but no, when I queried about it, I found out it was just a regular Buffet Low Eb with Selmer C* MP.
Of course it just could be the piece he was playing on it, as mentioned previously. Like I've said before, I've never played a bass clarinet, but I've done a lot of listening to see if it's something I would like to fiddle around with, this is the best tone for a bass clarinet that I've heard thus far, it may not be the "correct tone" as I don't play the beast and wouldn't know, but for me, I really like it and even prefer it to the other clarinets normally played for this piece.
So to ME, it is Amazing...
Take care.
Justme
"A critic is like a eunuch: he knows exactly how it ought to be done."
CLARINET, n.
An instrument of torture operated by a person with cotton in his ears. There are two instruments that are worse than a clarinet -- two clarinets
Post Edited (2010-06-29 23:46)
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-06-30 03:30
Justice, I don't think anyones putting this guy down, he sounds very good and did a great job playing this piece. It's just that there are so many bass clarinetists today that sound so good it's not so unusual anymore.
Island, I know I got off topic with the "song" thing but I'm trying to teach Justme that every piece of music is not called a "song". It's just me.
Bob, no I don't use a special mouthpiece or neck to get a full sound in the upper register. I play what I'm comfortable with, though I did have my neck, and bell, gold plated several years ago. It's all a matter of how one voices that register. I never played the Weber concerto on bass clarinet but I used to play the Concertino. ESP
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