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Author: ito
Date: 2010-03-25 05:46
Anyone here even think of painting the metal silver rings of the clarinet black here?i am thinking of this idea after looking at some picture of the clarinets with black metal rings instead of silver ones
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2010-03-25 11:16
Let's not be harsh. After all, when Buffet featured a clarinet with carbon fibre rings it was chic.
Painting probably will not work. Even if you carefully remove the rings and (with equal care) spray paint with Rustoleum, the end result WILL chip and look silly in a fairly short amount of time.
I would check with a plating expert and see if some sort of anodizing process can be applied. Keep in mind, if you have the "pressed on" ring on your bell (which we all pretty much have) this WILL NOT come off and would not be available for plating/anodizing.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: ito
Date: 2010-03-25 11:45
Paul Aviles get my point there,it is because i have seen some clarinet without the normal silver ring and i find that it look cooler,that is why i asked whether we can paint it black or something?haha
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Author: cearnsh
Date: 2010-03-25 12:17
No, I would never even think of it.
Of course you can paint the rings and paint has the advantage that you can remove it later.
I do hope you're not proposing to do this to your 926.
Chris
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Author: BobD
Date: 2010-03-25 12:40
Do a trial with black fingernail polish......
Bob Draznik
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-03-25 17:28
"Do a trial with black fingernail polish......"
HAHAHA! Emo clarinet!
One of the Leblanc Bliss models has black nickel plated keywork and rings.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2010-03-25 17:29)
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Author: CocoboloKid
Date: 2010-03-25 18:47
If you really want to do this, you may want to consider getting a pen plating kit and plating it in black rhodium.
One is available at the following link, and they actually work rather well. I've used them for jewelry, household applications, and several musical instruments, and the plating is holding up beautifully. (I also do tank plating, though, for instrument keys. Still, the pen can work beautifully, especially on an area you won't be touching very much, such as a bell ring.)
http://shorinternational.com/PlateHobby.htm
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Author: Curinfinwe
Date: 2010-03-25 18:49
I'd just like to point out that there is no bell ring on a B&H 926, so either removing it or painting it are irrelevant.
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2010-03-25 18:55
Is this because The Rolling Stones said to "paint it black?"
Of course you could anodize it.
Or get an AMG conversion.
Or Carrol Shelby's shop could do it
....or Orange County Choppers..
Or buy a ringless one.
Disclaimer....I sell ringless ones, as do other members of this esteemed BB
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: ariel3
Date: 2010-03-26 01:10
Why don't you just cover the rings with a narrow layer of black electrical tape? This will accomplish the purpose and will not deface the instrument.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2010-03-26 12:24
Of course, you can just keep an egg salad sandwich in your clarinet case and it'l turn the silver black quite quickly. Black nickel finishes have been around for awhile and are quite good.....but are not applicable to silver plating.
Bob Draznik
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Author: merlin
Date: 2010-04-12 17:44
Why not remove the rings and get custom ones made from delrin?
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Author: jbutler ★2017
Date: 2010-04-12 21:13
You can always use liver of sulfur to turn the silver plate to a dark patina. You can find it readily at a jewelers supply. You can also use egg yolks in a pinch. You can find information for the process on the internet.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-04-13 12:31
>>You can always use liver of sulfur to turn the silver plate to a dark patina. You can find it readily at a jewelers supply.>>
I used to use liver of sulfur for blackening copper in my stained glass business. Just be aware that liver of sulfur is poisonous. Please wear rubber gloves, work in a well-ventilated space and don't let the pets or the children anywhere near that stuff. After the patinated metal dries, be sure to rinse it well with plain water, before putting it on the clarinet. Stained glass supply houses also sell a variety of black patinas for different types of metals and some of those patinas are available in hardware stores as well. Some of them are chromium compounds. As far as I know, all patinas for metal are poisonous and require the same safety precautions.
Lelia
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Post Edited (2010-04-13 12:31)
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Author: scott kurtzweil
Date: 2010-04-26 19:55
From the "For What It's Worth" file, when we were developing the Bliss clarinets, we tried everything from anodizing to chrome plating. We settled on black nickel for the look and durability.
If you decide to go forward with plating your rings or keys, we found that black nickel adheres much better to copper or silver so you may need to have an initial "strike" done with another metal prior to applying the black nickel.
Best -
Scott Kurtzweil
Kurtzweil Musical LLC
www.kurtzweilmusical.com
269-340-9013
scott@kurtzweilmusical.com
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