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Author: rob v.
Date: 2010-02-05 15:05
Hello,
I am concerned about one of my students. A few months ago during a lesson we noticed that blood had been produced on the back side of the reed. I looked into my students mouth in the event they had cut there lip from biting. Which was not the case.
The other day after reherasal he came up to me and notified me that the same thing had happened. I looked inside his students mouth again and saw nothing that was producing blood. I asked them to go to the bath room and spit to see if more blood was produced. No additional blood was produced.
I HIGHLY encouraged my student to go see a doctor regarding the issue.
I was wondering if any of you have dealt with this sort of situation before and how did you deal with issue.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2010-02-05 16:05
Sometimes nosebleeds are due to a weak blood vessel in the nose. These can be cauterized by a doctor. Referring the student to a doctor is appropriate.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2010-02-05 17:05
The only time I've ever bled from playing was one day back in college where I had 11 hours of rehearsals in one day. That was my bottom lip, though.
Doctor is definitely called for.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-02-05 17:21
It sounds to me like it could be that he is catching the underneath part of his tongue on the tip of the reed when he brings his tongue back from the reed. This can will produce a small cut, I've experienced that once with a student. Check that part of his tongue to see if there's a tiny cut-scare on the under part of his tongue. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: BartHx
Date: 2010-02-05 18:17
Referral to a doctor is appropriate. But, under the circumstances, that doctor should probably be a dentist. If there is nothing obvious, that is probably where a GP would send you, anyway.
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Author: ZCClarinet
Date: 2010-02-05 20:36
I have also had a student like Ed Palanker's. The problem appeared only on days that involved a lot of tongued articulations on bass clarinet. After an hour or so of heavy doses of articulation, the back of the reed would have some blood on it, but there would be no signs of bleeding in the mouth of the student. I heard no aural signs of poor articulation technique but we nonetheless worked on a lighter touch (which also included a different angle of approach). The problem cleared up immediately.
=-Ben Chapin
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Author: Fishamble
Date: 2010-02-06 10:44
I think we all agree that a doctor should be consulted.
For what it's worth, I have experienced what you describe myself, and after a few instances put it down to tonguing. I've been playing for 3-4 years again after a 15 year hiatus. I tend to practice in bursts when the opportunity is available, so I don't build up as much toughness as I'd like in my tongue, lips, thumbs etc. I was relieved when I was able to attribute this particular font of blood.
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Author: stevensfo
Date: 2010-02-06 12:50
Could it be that he's brushing his teeth rather vigorously before practising? Lots of people do.
I often used to get some bleeding from my gums after brushing. If he didn't realise, then the blood would stay there for a while.
Steve
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Author: vin
Date: 2010-02-06 15:36
It's from using the wrong part of the tongue in too harsh a manner; no need to see a doctor.
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Author: JEG ★2017
Date: 2010-02-06 15:37
Funny this should come up. This past Sunday I was playing bass clarinet in a mostly-Sousa band concert. We had a 3-hour rehearsal in the morning, an hour off and then the concert. Midway through the first half of the concert I noticed a little blood on the reed. At the same time the tip of my tongue was getting sore, so I chalked it up to the extreme amount of articulation I was doing in all the marches. I couldn't taste it, and it wasn't coming from my lip, even though I'm a double-lip player. It went away by intermission and didn't come back. I also noticed that, coincidentally, there was a chip in the reed which didn't affect the sound. I don't know if the chip caused the bleeding, but there must have been some kind of laceration because the spot on the tip of my tongue was sore for about a day. I haven't had trouble since then.
If you are concerned by all means recommend that your student see a doctor or a dentist, but it's most likely nothing other than a tongue positioning issue.
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