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 Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2009-10-28 19:25

Hi everyone,

I know about the lists of current clarinet sections in symphonies globally, but would like to find historical documentation. Is there such a list online?

Alternately, if anyone knows who was principal in the Youngstown Symphony before Debbie Alexander, please let me know! (I took lessons from him for a year and have completely forgotten his name 25 years later!)

Thanks,
Katrina

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: richard1952 
Date:   2009-10-28 20:40

Could that have been Carl Marks?

Richard
Phoenix,AZ

richardseaman@cox.net

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-10-28 21:48

Philadelphia Orchestra:

http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~philorch/1stChair/First.html

...GBK

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2009-10-28 22:09

I think it's a shame that orchestras with web site space available don't post listings similar to this one (which isn't a Philadelphia Orchestra creation, either). I can't imagine it would be such a big job for an orchestra's HR manager or (if it has one) archivist. Do orchestras keep archival copies of their printed programs?

With so many historical recordings being re-issued on CD or even listening to my aging collection of LPs, it's fun to be able to go back and find out who was playing in the solo chairs when the recording was made.

Karl

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-10-28 22:15

Chicago Symphony Orchestra roster of past musicians:

http://www.cso.org/main.taf?p=7,3,1,1

...GBK



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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: DixieSax 
Date:   2009-10-28 23:59

Carl Marks sounds right to me also.

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Chris Hill 
Date:   2009-10-29 00:12

I should know this, since Mr. Gigliotti was my teacher, but I don't, so I'll ask you all: I noticed that there is an overlap of two years with Ralph McLane and Anthony Gigliotti. Did Mr. Gigliotti start as assistant or Co-principal?
Chris

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2009-10-29 00:52

Thanks for the Chicago and Philly links.

It was not Carl Marks. He had already opened his shop in western PA and did not play in the orchestra at the time I'm talking about. The school year would have been 1983-84, and since I met Carl in late '84 when I started studying with Debbie at Marks' music, I know it wasn't him. I do know that the father of the guy I studied with ran a repair shop in downtown Youngstown at the time, called "George's Band Repair." His name was George, of course. I just wish there was a better (and more easily accessible online) history of who played where, when! :)

EDIT: BTW the current YSO website does not list their musicians...grr...



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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2009-10-29 01:58

Gigliotti was hired as McLane's assistant when McLane became ill with the cancer that eventually killed him. Sometimes McLane was just too sick in his last season to play. If I remember the story correctly, I think Gigliotti continued as "acting" principal after McLane's death for at least a season before being named principal.

Karl

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: DixieSax 
Date:   2009-10-29 02:10

Another player from that timeframe up in Northwest PA was David Sublette at Edinboro. I took lessons from him during my high school summers, but I'm not sure if he got around and played symphony work anywhere.

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: richard1952 
Date:   2009-10-29 04:58

Katrina,
Marks Music was located in Farrell, PA in the 1940's-50's. I took clarinet and sax lessons there from Sam Campagna Sr. The store at that time was owned by Carl Marks Jr. and he did play with the Youngstown Symphony during the 50's I believe.

The store was moved to Hermitage, PA during the 1980's if memory serves me correctly.

Richard
Phoenix,AZ

richardseaman@cox.net

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2009-10-29 13:40

Hi Richard,

I took from Debbie Alexander at Marks Music from 84-86. I just can't remember the guy's name who was principal (possibly for only a couple of years) until she became principal in 84.

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2009-10-29 14:38

Here's the New York list, plus clarinet shoes [grin]

http://www.clarinet-now.com/new-york-philharmonic-principal-clarinetists.html

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2009-10-29 21:18

On this page you can follow members of the Royal Stockholm Opera Orchestra from 1848 to present day with pictures if available.. The orchestra started in 1526 and the aim is to list all members.

http://www.hovkapellet.com/sv/musiker/lista.do

Alphie

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: Katrina 
Date:   2009-10-29 21:54

Alphie, now that's the kind of history I'm talking about! :)

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: GBK 
Date:   2009-11-03 02:01

All the Chicago Symphony Orchestra first chair players through 2002.

http://userwww.aimnet.ne.jp/user/moribin/ecso1stcha.htm


...GBK

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 Re: Past Orchestra sections?
Author: donald 
Date:   2009-11-03 07:44

A brilliant photo of Per Billman (Royal Stockholm principal), my mother would kill me if I used a photo like that for publicity!

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