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 Re: Mozart Concerto - An Important New Recording
Author: Dileep Gangolli 
Date:   2009-06-02 14:31

Allow me to add my 2 pence worth of thoughts to this discussion.

While I do not have Tony's depth of experience, I have been fortunate to have done performances on period clarinets and basset horns including a memorable performance in Boston of Mozart Requiem with Hogwood conducting (I used a copy of a Backhofen basset horn made by William McColl). I also owned clarinet copies made by Daniel Bangham (Simiot copies with the corp de rechange). Unfortunately, here in Chicago, there is no period instrument activity of the Classical era and that which was occurring around the USA has dried to a trickle. It is up to you folks across the pond to keep the flame alive.

1) I agree with Tony that poor intonation would have been a nagging issue with top flight performers of the era given the standards that were expected from string players and the introduction of the tempered scale on keyboard instruments. That may have been why the leading composers aside from Mozart did not bother to write for the clarinet until added keys made intonation more tolerable. I do not consider the Stamitz concerti to be more than novelty items primarily for the freak shows at the Concert Spiritual.

2)While not actually written into the tutorials of the time including the wonderful Lefevre tutorial mentioned by Oliver, I cannot believe that half holing would not have been a widely practiced technique given that it is relatively easy to do on holes without rings and that most wind players of the era were doublers who played flute, recorder, bassoon, and perhaps oboe. Even Lefevre himself was primarily a flute player and would not have considered his primary instrument to be clarinet. I believe that players of the era were much more flexible than our contemporary era which puts a premium on specialization.

3)I think audiences were more accepting of the quirks of wind instruments and adjusted expectations accordingly when listening. I am sure that the Stadler's performances of the Mozart would have been viewed as being as technically breathtaking as modern performances of the Corigliano concerto by Drucker. But I doubt given the limitations of the instrument, there is no way that live performances of the Mozart concerto would have been flawless or even close.

Thanks for this lively discussion. I have been enjoying the posted comments be everyone.

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