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Author: michal
Date: 2008-12-02 20:50
Hi all,
Weird q but i ran into a debate with my friend about this- in Tristan there is a lot of bass stuff in the 2nd act. In some parts, the writing goes from f clef writing to g clef but if I play the notes in the g clef as they are written, I mean, in the register they are written, it seems to break the arpeggios. To be more clear, if a passage is written first on f clef and than in the middle switches to g clef, should the notes written in g clef be played as written or an octave higher??
Sorry for the mess, hope someone out there gets my q
michal
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2008-12-02 20:58
Most, but not all bass clarinet music written using bass and treble clefs requires that you play the treble clef portion an octave higher than written (actually it will then actually sound -- in concert pitch -- a tone lower than written, same as the bass clef notes). This is common in Wagner. R. Strauss, Dukas and a lot of other composers of all nationalities. Sometimes, playing an unfamiliar piece you have to do a little inductive reasoning, like looking for fractured arpeggios and scales.
Playing Tristan in Israel -- is this an historic breakthrough?
Larry Bocaner
National Symphony Orchestra Washington, DC (retired)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2008-12-02 22:39
"Playing Tristan in Israel -- is this an historic breakthrough?"
I saw a documentary about Wagner's music being performed in Israel (included contributions from Daniel Barenboim) where the Siegfied Idyll was accompanied throughout by an audience member with a football rattle (one of these http://www.knotjustjigs.co.uk/popup_image.php?pID=136&type=bmp).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-12-31 20:39
Of course Larry B is correct about the different clefs. Some composers never got it right, they didn't seem to understand the different between the French way, all in treble clef and the German way, sounding the note that's written, except for transposition of course. Rachmaninoff never got it correct, Stravinsky often got it wrong to mention a few. Just use common sense. Strauss, Franck, Wagner, Dukes, Bartok, Mahler are among those that always got it correct. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457 Listen to a little Mozart, live performance, on a regular clarinet all in the treble clef.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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